From Press Gang Mailing List" Firstly I'd like to say hi to everyone, as one of the new members of this mailing list, and also thanks to "pops" who set this thing up. This is a *tiny* bit off topic, but it's an interview with Steven Moffat about "Chalk", which I'm sure all of us in the UK are watching avidly. I gleaned it off the BBC web page..... ******* Chalk Steven Moffat (Writer) Steven Moffat is firmly convinced of the value of real-life experience to a writer. Having used his own divorce as the basis for his award-winning BBC 2 series Joking Apart, it was surely only a matter of time before he turned to his early teaching career for inspiration. Inevitably you're going to write about what you know because it minimises research time. I was horribly young when I started teaching and I quit after three years as soon as Press Gang came along, so I couldn't claim I was any sort of expert.' Teaching is very much a Moffat family tradition - Steven's grandmother was a teacher and so are his father and sister. He is reasonably confident that they will speak to him again after watching Chalk... Firstly they are all primary teachers, I was the only secondary teacher, which is an entirely different thing. Secondly, a lot of the stuff in Chalk is teacher humour which I think teachers will recognise - familiar myths like dead teachers in front of a classroom and the general attitude of easy contempt for the mere idea of having to teach which is something they put on. They all say outrageous things about pupils in the staffroom but they don't really mean them, whereas Eric Slatt does - that's the difference. The basis for Eric was a guy I never met; he left the school before I arrived and he wasn't the deputy head, but he was famed throughout the school as an utter bastard. I did know his wife, who regarded him as ineffectual and fatuous - she said terrible things about him and there's always something funny about unfettered malevolence. I couldn't reconcile these two completely different pictures of someone I never actually met. I'm sure if I had he'd have been a perfectly nice bloke, but it was the fiction rather than the reality of him that made me think of Eric. But very little is based on reality, or only in a very remote way. It was always a vague plan at our school to invent a few pupils and see whether we could we get away with it, and I'm sure it's happened somewhere. There was also a legend at our school that one of the kids had skipped school and turned up on Death Row in America - I never found out if it was true or not. What is authentic is that in this country it is the Deputy Head who runs the school and has all the responsibility and none of the power, which is why he's always the one who ends up having the nervous breakdown. The Head is a more remote figure.' Beneath the uproarious comedy, does Chalk have serious accusations to make about the current state of the education system? No', says Steven firmly. Well, there are occasional asides. I mean, why can't any of us speak French? It must be the most unsuccessful enterprise in the world, teaching any foreign language in this country; why does it fail? Dogs in France understand it, why can't we? Also, there is a tendency to favour talented pupils because they're the easy ones to teach. But really, for the main part, Chalk is just a romp. It's not a bitter political diatribe at all, it's just for larks.' Steven similarly rejects the suggestion that his teachers have actually lost their wits. It isn't that teachers go insane, they're quite rational people really, but because they have prolonged professional contact for five hours a day with children, they come to behave remarkably like them. Obviously in Chalk it's taken to an extreme - Eric really is just a child, he thinks and behaves like one. I remember, as a teacher, getting up to childish pranks, and there was a war between the two staffrooms over the number of chairs we each had. You're surrounded by a predominant kid's culture and you can't help it, you just become one too. The thing about teaching is that it's very hard work. It's a hugely difficult, hugely important job and very underpaid. You can't bluff your way with 30 children in front of you. My sister and dad are very dedicated and they love it. When I was out on location at the state school with members of the production team, I suddenly realised that I was the only one who hadn't been to a private school. I had to explain what this was to them, say Look, there are no ponies, no personal growth room - this is your basic education!'. Steven made his name as a writer with the multi-award-winning teenage series Press Gang but does he now consider himself to be a comedy writer? No, that just sort of happened really. It's not a bad thing to happen because it's regarded as a very well paid corner of writing for the best part. You end up getting commissioned by people with whom you're familiar, and it so happens that there are some very good people in the Comedy department of the BBC who are very nice to deal with - Kevin Lygo in particular who is our Head of Comedy.' There has been much discussion recently about the health of the British sitcom and the invasion of American imports which rely on one-liners rather than plot for effect, but Steven robustly defends the home team. We get a very skewed idea of what American sitcoms are - we get four of them and they are very good, but there are a huge number of terrible American sitcoms. I don't think there is as big a quality gap as is sometimes made out - if indeed there is a quality gap at all. In fact there are huge "Britcom" fans in America and they think we're marvellous because they only see our best stuff as well.' Steven Moffat's one-off half-hour comedy The Office for Carlton Television, starring Robert Lindsay, was screened on ITV in July 1996 to great acclaim. His situation comedy Joking Apart ran for two series on BBC 2, and won the Bronze Rose d'Or at Montreux 1995. Steven wrote 43 episodes of the award-winning teenage series Press Gang for Central TV. Press Gang, which was his first work as a professional writer, won the BAFTA Award for Best Children's Programme Entertainment/Drama 1990 and the Royal Television Society Award for Best Children's Programme 1990. He was also nominated for two Writers' Guild award and one Prix Jeunesse. His other writing credits include two episodes of Dawn French's Murder Most Horrid: Overkill in Series 2 and Dying Live in Series 3, for which he received a Writers' Guild nomination; Exam Conditions for Central Television, winner of the 1994 Priz Jeunesse and Plovdiv Award, and nominated for a Royal Television Society award; and an episode of Stay Lucky Series 2, The Devil Wept In Leeds, for Yorkshire Television. ****** -- Laura | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Hello fellow PGers, Thanks to Matt for starting off this list ! It's only been going a few days but there seems to be more activity here than on the web page message board. I guess mailing lists much reach more people than the Web. I thought I'd join in the favourite episodes list. It's hard to pick out certain episodes as being better than others, not least because the more you think about it the more one's mind changes ! So, here in no particular order are some of my favourites. SHE'S GOT IT TAPED Surprised ? I've heard that this episode is not widely liked, but I have watched this episode perhaps more than any of the others. I like the way Sarah gets the limelight and I like the tense atmosphere throughout the episode. Sarah is in constant danger throughout and this makes it all the more interesting. The actor who plays Archie, the bomber, is excellent and gives a wondefully edgy portrayl of a young man who thinks he may have been rumbled but isn't quite sure. I love the way we the viewer don't know for sure either, whether Sarah really knows who he is, till the very end. The shot of the figure behind the glass window in Archie's door is very spooky, isn't it ? I've often wondered if the note under the door was left by Sarah or not ? Any ideas ? I guess that it must be Sarah that we see through the glass ? The only problem I have with this episode is the fact that Sarah puts herself in so much danger that it seems almost insane on her part. I know she's a fearless reporter and all, but this guy was a nasty piece of work. I wrote to Steven Moffat and asked him about this and he said that , although it was never stated in the show, we can assume that Spike and Frazz are nearby to look out for Sarah ! UNxPECTED Surprised again ?! Yet another of those episodes that I believe are not that popular. Steven Moffat has said of this episode's unpopularity (and She's Got It Taped) that this can be attributed to three things : NO Spike, NO Lynda and NO Colin. I think he's right, but this is partly why I enjoy this episode so much. Frazz takes centre stage for the second and last time (the first being PICKING UP THE PIECES). I really enjoy the scene in the hospital when Lynda tries to leave early from Frazz' bedisde and there's something she says (I forget what ) which startles Frazz from his rest which always makes me laugh. We also get to see where Frazz lives, which appears to be a bedsit. I also love the fact that there is a picture of a Skull X-Ray hanging under Frazz' TV. I am a radiographer so this is of special interest to me ! Michael Jayston is superb as Colonel X and his scene where he explains the circumstances of his wife's death and his subsequent mental illness is very moving and wonderfully offsets the bizarre goings on in the first part of the episode. CHANCE IS A FINE THING I love the scene with Lynda and Kenny in the cafe, where Lynda tells Kenny he can't have any more biscuits because he's putting on weight. Lee Ross and Julia Sawalha do a great job at showing the deep platonic friendship that Kenny and Lynda have. Paul Reynolds is hilarious when using Spike's prompts at his date. "You make them (her clothes) yourself. That must be a lot cheaper". GOING BACK TO JASPER STREET Nik Richardson has already picked this and I go along with everything Nik said. I love that scene where the infant Lynda Day is seen walking around the corner of a very leafy and idyllic looking suburban road, it really looks as if it really is the 70's ! The actor who plays the young Kenny is so good it's astonishing- just watch his expressions in the scene in Lynda's garden. The scene where the older Lynda and Kenny re-visit the old lady is a bit of a tearjerker, or am I just a big softie ?! THERE ARE CROCODILES Words almost fail me in trying to explain the brilliance if this episode, but I'll try : a seriously strong anti-drugs message, surreal dreamlike scenes, a sublime reference to the wonderful Kenny, a surreal flashback to an early episode , the re-appearance (in a crucial role) of a character we had every expectation of never seeing or hearing from again (David Jefford), some great moments of humour (Frazz' football escapades, Julie's line about scoring with a member of the opposition etc..), a FIRE !!!!, and a wonderfully ambiguous ending. Excellent. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Hi all, In message <1308@salmo.demon.co.uk> Laura Nunn writes: > Firstly I'd like to say hi to everyone, as one of the new members of this > mailing list, and also thanks to "pops" who set this thing up. Hello again Laura. I assume you are saying your father set up the mailing list ? Unless you refer to Matt Saunders as "pops" ! There appears to be some confusion here since I thought Matt Saunders created this list. Credit where it's due and all that, perhaps someone can clarify this. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> On 2 Mar, Vince Deehan wrote: > Hi all, > > In message <1308@salmo.demon.co.uk> Laura Nunn writes: > > Firstly I'd like to say hi to everyone, as one of the new members of this > > mailing list, and also thanks to "pops" who set this thing up. > > Hello again Laura. I assume you are saying your father set up the mailing > list ? Unless you refer to Matt Saunders as "pops" ! There appears to be some > confusion here since I thought Matt Saunders created this list. Credit > where it's due and all that, perhaps someone can clarify this. Well, unless Laura is my long-lost daughter (kind of unlikely as I'm only 22) then it just ain't true! :-) But yes, I created the list. In fact nearly everything ending in yoyo.org is my fault. Really, I'm flattered and annoyed at the same time. Flattered because I'm being praised and I like a bit of that, but annoyed because I can't remember which episode it was that Colin used the "pops" line in :-) Was it "Bad News" when the Bill Campbell, the paper's owner, died? Or was he talking about Matt Kerr? Aaaargh! Ade? Later, Matt... wondering why he is up at ten to six on a Monday morning... -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <331AD1B4.3258CDF1@petford.demon.co.uk> Matt Saunders wrote: > > Well, unless Laura is my long-lost daughter (kind of unlikely as I'm > only 22) then it just ain't true! :-) > Oh to be 22 again... hardwire connection to the net paid for by someone else, never any problems accessing news, no trouble grabbing files and season four of PG - the first I saw on actual transmission. Happy days... > But yes, I created the list. In fact nearly everything ending in > yoyo.org is my fault. > Credit where it's due, Matt, as Vince said above. I remember in the dim and distant days of prehistory - 1993 to be precise - there was quite a lot of talk about a PG mailing list and even a newsgroup was mooted but, to date, you're the only one who's actually had the enthusiasm to actually start one! Nice one. And what's more we actually get a nice filter line to differentiate listmail. What a pro... > Really, I'm flattered and annoyed at the same time. Flattered because > I'm being praised and I like a bit of that, but annoyed because I > can't remember which episode it was that Colin used the "pops" > line in :-) > > Was it "Bad News" when the Bill Campbell, the paper's owner, died? Or > was he talking about Matt Kerr? > > Aaaargh! Ade? Now my knowledge is quite rusty these days, but as far as I can remember it was in the above episode, in the scene were Colin and Lynda are talking with Bobby Campbell and Colin says "Dave Campbell... he was "the old man", he was "pop". Can't remember any other instances of "pops" though, although there probably were as it's a typical Colin-ism. Interestingly, Mr Campbell was referred to as David from season three onwards and Cameron in the first two. Still, given how good the subtle continuity is, we'll forgive Steven that minor mishap, I think! > > Later, > Matt... wondering why he is up at ten to six on a Monday morning... > - Ten to six? That's over an hour before I have to get up and I work for a living! Call yourself a student, Matt? I dunno, such things would never have happened in my day... get away from that network and get some serious sleep in! Cheers, Ade -- _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk I could not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope Classic TV http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" References: <9822@deehan.demon.co.uk> <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> Message-ID: In a message entitled "Re: [pressgang] Creator of the PG List ?", Adrian E C Petford wrote: >Oh to be 22 again... hardwire connection to the net paid for by someone >else, never any problems accessing news, no trouble grabbing files and >season four of PG - the first I saw on actual transmission. Happy >days... Well, if we're doing the when-we-saw-it-first thing. I remember watching "Page One" on it's debut showing (lucky me :-). I was in the studio at the time, so only 'watched' it (i.e. the sound was turned down). Mixing records is actually fairly boring so often there's something else going on in the background to give the other half of the brain something to do.... I set the video from the next episode onwards (it's a sign of a good show if it makes some sort of sense without the sound - try it sometime; if you can follow the story OK then the writing and direction is working), though I only watched them and rubbed over them next time (hadn't quite got into the video-collection thing at that point). The first one I kept from it's original transmission was #2 #2 (I think). And in a really twisty-type thing I once watched an episode of PG in the studio with someone who was in PG, though she wasn't actually in this one...there was gossip a-go-go though :-) [about Matt] >And what's more we actually get a nice >filter line to differentiate listmail. What a pro... Oh no, don't call him that - he'll get all big headed... >> Later, >> Matt... wondering why he is up at ten to six on a Monday morning... > >Ten to six? That's over an hour before I have to get up and I work for a >living! Seesh, if I have to get up before midday I charge double time ;-) Simon. -- Simon Thornton, Brighton, UK. Sound Engineering, Editing, Design. simon@team-sp.org Will mix records for food. simonth@mistral.co.uk | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970303175941.43211@yoyo.org> On 1 Mar, Andrew Parkinson wrote: > A question that has always bugged me is why did Lee Ross leave the show at > the end of series three, especially considering it was being filmed back to > back with series four. I think he was going for a part in a film whose shooting schedules clashed with those of PG4 Hmm - he wanted a part in a film more than he wanted to be in PG? Traitor! :-) But he never got the part; cue a dash back to Richmond and pleas to the PG producers to write him back in. It was too late. > Apart from general curiosity, I missed his character. Yeah - he brought stability and common-sense; and was a perfect foil for Lynda and Spike's bickering. Something that went completely out of the window when Julie came back. I think "Windfall" (the 100 pound note / dove / Colin handcuffed to thug episode) was probably Julie's strongest episode; and she was crap in that. Hysterical overacting, grrr. Compare with "Kenny Phillips - Rock Star". No contest. Later, Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" In your message dated Monday 3, March 1997 you wrote : > On 1 Mar, Andrew Parkinson wrote: > why did Lee Ross leave the show at > > the end of series three, > Matt Saunders replied: > I think he was going for a part in a film whose shooting schedules > clashed with those of PG4 Hmm - he wanted a part in a > film more than he wanted to be in PG? Traitor! :-) > > But he never got the part; cue a dash back to Richmond and pleas to > the PG producers to write him back in. It was too late. > Quite right; I remember being told by none other than Lucy Benjamin herself (she was in panto in Wolverhampton over Christmas '92) that they had hoped he'd be available for series five and were close to actually signing contracts, but another regular role ultimately took precedence (I think it was Westbeach, of all things, and look what happened to that!) as he'd signed for that part first. Apparently, the deputy editorship is split between Kenny and Julie in the film script, so he was obviously meant to be prominent in that. > > Apart from general curiosity, I missed his character. It was a great shame, as the original trio of main characters were very finely balanced (apparently each one was meant to echo different facets of Steven's own personality) and it never worked as well afterwards. Kenny might have been meant to be boring, predictable and "nice", etc, but his absence really left an immeasurable gulf once he'd gone. > Yeah - he brought stability and common-sense; and was a perfect foil > for Lynda and Spike's bickering. Something that went completely out > of the window when Julie came back. > Agreed; For me, Julie never showed any personality or character traits until the last two episodes or so, and they were hardly exciting or original when they did finally materialise! Definitely no comparison at all to Lynda's multi-faceted persona. > > Compare with "Kenny Phillips - Rock Star". No contest. > Great stuff; that last episode (of series two) was definitely one of the all time highs of the entire series. Good old Kenny. Ade -- _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk I could not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope Classic TV http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Sorry I didn't notice this earlier, but Nick Stringer (alias PG's Mr Sullivan ) popped up briefly in tonight's Goodnight Sweetheart as an undercover police (chief) inspector. Always nice to see him of course, but unfortunately he didn't save the prog (formerly one of my favourite series) which is now a total donkey (and that's putting it politely!). GS without Dervla Kirwan is like PG without Julia! I'll try to post any more forthcoming appearances I spot in advance next time! Cheers, Ade -- _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk I could not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope Classic TV http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" >> > Apart from general curiosity, I missed his character. > >It was a great shame, as the original trio of main characters were very >finely >balanced Just what people have said about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy for the last 30 years. -Chris | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Buddy's Song is on BBC1 next Sunday (9th March) at 11.55 pm - so set your videos if you can bear to see a young Julia swooning over the ugly chesney hawkes...Lee Ross has a larger role in the film, as does Sharon Duce (Spike's mum) and there is a small appearance by Jake Wood the "killer on the line" Nik | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Mar 1997 Nebine@aol.com wrote: > >It was a great shame, as the original trio of main characters were very > >finely balanced > > Just what people have said about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy for the last 30 > years. You don't mean in twenty or so years time we'll see- "Press Gang: The Next Generation"??? Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - | | ============================================================= | THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST | | To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to | pressgang-request@yoyo.org containing the word "unsubscribe". | | By default, replies will go back to the list, not to the | author of whatever you're replying to. | ============================================================= From Press Gang Mailing List" References: <970304053748_1450417371@emout20.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970305090352.0068f91c@powerup.com.au> At 07:11 AM 3/5/97 +1100, you wrote: >On Tue, 4 Mar 1997 Nebine@aol.com wrote: > >> >It was a great shame, as the original trio of main characters were very >> >finely balanced >> >> Just what people have said about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy for the last 30 >> years. > >You don't mean in twenty or so years time we'll see- "Press Gang: The >Next Generation"??? > that would be cool. Mind you the follow up shows Press Gang: In a far away little town called 9, and "Press gang: Lost but on the move" would really suck. Hazz... /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970304232817.14370@yoyo.org> On 3 Mar, Adrian E C Petford wrote: > > Sorry I didn't notice this earlier, but Nick Stringer (alias PG's Mr Sullivan > ) popped up briefly in tonight's Goodnight > Sweetheart as an undercover police (chief) inspector. > > Always nice to see him of course, but unfortunately he didn't save the prog > (formerly one of my favourite series) which is now a total donkey (and that's > putting it politely!). GS without Dervla Kirwan is like PG without Julia! Did it used to be good? Is that proper English? I could never take Rodney seriously with that suburban accent. Anyway, that's another thread :-) That's a couple of times I've seen Mr Sullivan pop up in a sitcom, and both times he's played ridiculous stereotypes. Must be after the money. > I'll try to post any more forthcoming appearances I spot in advance next time! Talking of which, are you still keeping a record of these other appearances, like at the end of the Prog Guide? Because if you're not then I suppose I'll have to :-) Cheers, Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> <331AD1B4.3258CDF1@petford.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <19970304232207.25642@yoyo.org> On 3 Mar, Adrian E C Petford wrote: > Matt Saunders wrote: > > > > > Well, unless Laura is my long-lost daughter (kind of unlikely as I'm > > only 22) then it just ain't true! :-) > > > > Oh to be 22 again... hardwire connection to the net paid for by someone > else, never any problems accessing news, no trouble grabbing files and > season four of PG - the first I saw on actual transmission. Happy > days... My how things change. Personally I get a decent news feed and fast connectivity as I piggyback off Easynet for free (that's where the yoyo.org machine is located); sadly the Uni's JANET connection is practically useless for non-UK sites, especially after midday. News gets here, but not particularly quickly. :-( > > But yes, I created the list. In fact nearly everything ending in > > yoyo.org is my fault. > > > > Credit where it's due, Matt, as Vince said above. I remember in the dim > and distant days of prehistory - 1993 to be precise - there was quite a > lot of talk about a PG mailing list and even a newsgroup was mooted but, > to date, you're the only one who's actually had the enthusiasm to > actually start one! I wish I'd been around at the time. I didn't get introduced to the WWW until September 1994, and noone watched it at my school. I was alone in my worship! (Sad man - I know). > Nice one. And what's more we actually get a nice > filter line to differentiate listmail. What a pro... Bzzt - done this bit in previous mail :-) > > Really, I'm flattered and annoyed at the same time. Flattered because > > I'm being praised and I like a bit of that, but annoyed because I > > can't remember which episode it was that Colin used the "pops" > > line in :-) > > > > Was it "Bad News" when the Bill Campbell, the paper's owner, died? Or > > was he talking about Matt Kerr? > > > > Aaaargh! Ade? > > Now my knowledge is quite rusty these days, but as far as I can remember > it was in the above episode, in the scene were Colin and Lynda are > talking with Bobby Campbell and Colin says "Dave Campbell... he was "the > old man", he was "pop". Can't remember any other instances of "pops" > though, although there probably were as it's a typical Colin-ism. Yeah, me neither. Til I meet up with my VCR at Easter I suppose. Hmm. That'd be a cool little section for the web site. Colinisms. Must make a mental note of that. Then again, anyone want to contribute some? [Marvel as Matt tries to duck out of doing the hard work :-) ] > Interestingly, Mr Campbell was referred to as David from season three > onwards and Cameron in the first two. Still, given how good the subtle > continuity is, we'll forgive Steven that minor mishap, I think! Yeah - well I had him down as "Bill" so I definitely forgive him there! Later, Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <19970304231223.63179@yoyo.org> On 3 Mar, Simon Thornton wrote: > In a message entitled "Re: [pressgang] Creator of the PG List ?", Adrian E C Petford wrote: > > >Oh to be 22 again... hardwire connection to the net paid for by someone > >else, never any problems accessing news, no trouble grabbing files and > >season four of PG - the first I saw on actual transmission. Happy > >days... > > Well, if we're doing the when-we-saw-it-first thing. > > I remember watching "Page One" on it's debut showing (lucky me :-). I > was in the studio at the time, so only 'watched' it (i.e. the sound > was turned down). Mixing records is actually fairly boring so often > there's something else going on in the background to give the > other half of the brain something to do.... I'm not sure which was my first. Whichever it was I missed the start of it. "Interface" was about the 3rd or 4th that I saw, so counting back... erm. Oh what the hell. I was 14 years old and used to watch CBBC from school end til Neighbours. For some reason we switched over to ITV and found it. I thought it was kind of cool. And that bossy girl with the curly-bobbed hair was kind of nice looking... > I set the video from the next episode onwards (it's a sign of a > good show if it makes some sort of sense without the sound - > try it sometime; if you can follow the story OK then the writing > and direction is working), though I only watched them and rubbed > over them next time (hadn't quite got into the video-collection > thing at that point). The first one I kept from it's original > transmission was #2 #2 (I think). I only got wise to taping it when Channel 4 repeated series 3. Thankfully some kind soul plugged the large gaps in my collection :-) > And in a really twisty-type thing I once watched an episode of > PG in the studio with someone who was in PG, though she wasn't > actually in this one...there was gossip a-go-go though :-) Namedropper :-) > [about Matt] > >And what's more we actually get a nice > >filter line to differentiate listmail. What a pro... > > Oh no, don't call him that - he'll get all big headed... Too late. Hehheh :-) Majordomo was fun to play with. Part of the reason for setting this list up for me was figuring out how it's done. Hopefully it's as user-friendly as it can possibly be; I'm open to suggestions though. > >> Later, > >> Matt... wondering why he is up at ten to six on a Monday morning... > > > >Ten to six? That's over an hour before I have to get up and I work for a > >living! > > Seesh, if I have to get up before midday I charge double time ;-) Mmm. Should've mentioned I was just going to bed. I didn't have any morning lectures last week so my daytime hours got kind of skewed :-) Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" <3.0.1.32.19970305090352.0068f91c@powerup.com.au> Message-ID: <19970304233527.52386@yoyo.org> On 5 Mar, Andrew Parkinson wrote: > At 07:11 AM 3/5/97 +1100, you wrote: > >On Tue, 4 Mar 1997 Nebine@aol.com wrote: > > > >> >It was a great shame, as the original trio of main characters were very > >> >finely balanced > >> > >> Just what people have said about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy for the last 30 > >> years. > > > >You don't mean in twenty or so years time we'll see- "Press Gang: The > >Next Generation"??? > > > > that would be cool. Mind you the follow up shows Press Gang: In a far away > little town called 9, and "Press gang: Lost but on the move" would really > suck. *giggle* But if that means we get seven feature films then I'm all for it! I know where they could find a ready-made script... Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" References: <970304053748_1450417371@emout20.mail.aol.com> <3.0.1.32.19970305090352.0068f91c@powerup.com.au> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970305112910.006980ac@powerup.com.au> At 11:35 PM 3/4/97 +0000, you wrote: >> > >> >You don't mean in twenty or so years time we'll see- "Press Gang: The >> >Next Generation"??? >> > >> >> that would be cool. Mind you the follow up shows Press Gang: In a far away >> little town called 9, and "Press gang: Lost but on the move" would really >> suck. > >*giggle* > >But if that means we get seven feature films then I'm all for >it! I know where they could find a ready-made script... > now that would be perfection Hazz... /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" References: <9822@deehan.demon.co.uk> <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970305112817.00696bc0@powerup.com.au> At 11:12 PM 3/4/97 +0000, you wrote: >> Well, if we're doing the when-we-saw-it-first thing. >> i first saw it the first time (I could be wrong) ABC showed seaosn one and two in Australai, maybe 1991. I was already 22 and going down hill. I must admit that it didn't do a lot for me, basically i remembered Dexter Fletcher from a movie I had seen called "The Rachel papers". In 1992 ABC showed the first four series and I watch nearly all the episodes but foolishly I only taped from Rock Solid onwards. thankfully they repeated the first four series again in 1993 so I got it all on tape. We had to wait till late 1995 to see the fifth series, which they have just repeated here recently. Hazz.. /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" Hi you crazy romantic kids... (well, it's kind of Romantic, isn't it? Being on a list about a TV show that doesn't even exist anymore? In a way? Or is it just sad?) Just subscribed this minute - I didn't want to (email takes up quite enough of my time as it is, thank you very much) but having checked out the archived posts I couldn't help myself... Reading about peoples fave episodes gave me a few ideas as to which I would choose... I wouldn't have thought I could just pick specific PG episodes out of the air and champion them as my 'favourites' in such a way, as they're all so great (except "She's Got It Taped" - I've never liked that one for some reason). But - hey! - here goes anyway: Monday - Tuesday: For the cleverness of its structure, mostly. Chance Is A Fine Thing: Because of the Kenny & Lynda bits which are classic, and the general themes of fate/destiny/coincidence which are handled really nicely. The one where Spike & Lynda go to a cocktail party: Because, of course, that's the one where they get it together for the first time, and because it illuminated a Whole Other Side of Lynda's personality. And because of Sophie & Laura's antics... The one (or is it two?) where Colin grooms Kenny for rock stardom: Because I always felt sorry for Kenny and it was nice to see him hogging the limelight for once, and also because I think it captures really well that kind of monumental feeling of This-Is-It you get when you finish school forever. Holding On: Because, as it happens, I just watched it last night and it made me smile enormously, especially when Colin says "As it happens, Kenny, this is *not* an amusing situation". Does anyone else reckon Paul Matthews (?) is barely resisting the temptation to giggle in that scene? Or am I imagining it? Enough already, xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au /* * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. */ From Press Gang Mailing List" ; from Nik Richardson on Mar 4, 1997 08:33:26 -0500 References: <199703040834_MC2-120D-C157@compuserve.com> Message-ID: On 4 Mar, Nik Richardson wrote: > Buddy's Song is on BBC1 next Sunday (9th March) at 11.55 pm - so set your > videos if you can bear to see a young Julia swooning over the ugly chesney > hawkes...Lee Ross has a larger role in the film, as does Sharon Duce > (Spike's mum) and there is a small appearance by Jake Wood the "killer on > the line" Don't think much of it as a film, but for some reason I just love 80s/90s contemporary British films, no matter how crap they are. To say I was surprised to see Julia pop up was an understatement. Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" ; from Andrew Parkinson on Mar 5, 1997 11:28:17 +1000 References: <9822@deehan.demon.co.uk> <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> <3.0.1.32.19970305112817.00696bc0@powerup.com.au> Message-ID: On 5 Mar, Andrew Parkinson wrote: > At 11:12 PM 3/4/97 +0000, you wrote: > > >> Well, if we're doing the when-we-saw-it-first thing. > >> > > > i first saw it the first time (I could be wrong) ABC showed seaosn one and > two in Australai, maybe 1991. I was already 22 and going down hill. I > must admit that it didn't do a lot for me, basically i remembered Dexter > Fletcher from a movie I had seen called "The Rachel papers". > > In 1992 ABC showed the first four series and I watch nearly all the > episodes but foolishly I only taped from Rock Solid onwards. thankfully > they repeated the first four series again in 1993 so I got it all on tape. > We had to wait till late 1995 to see the fifth series, which they have just > repeated here recently. Yikes, so ABC have shown most episodes, like, three times? Did they show it in a decent time slot? I'll bet they didn't stuff it somewhere stupid like 4.40 on Friday afternoons like ITV did. Maybe this explains why it's more popular in Aus than over here... Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" References: <3.0.1.32.19970305112817.00696bc0@powerup.com.au> <9822@deehan.demon.co.uk> <19970303055205.39914@yoyo.org> <3.0.1.32.19970305112817.00696bc0@powerup.com.au> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970307083203.006902f8@powerup.com.au> At 06:25 PM 3/6/97 +0000, you wrote: >Yikes, so ABC have shown most episodes, like, three times? Did they >show it in a decent time slot? I'll bet they didn't stuff it somewhere >stupid like 4.40 on Friday afternoons like ITV did. > >Maybe this explains why it's more popular in Aus than over here... > The episodes were shown at 5.30pm Monday to Friday, in its first two runs. In the run when the finally showed the last season it was only on friday nights, although I still think that it was at 5.30pm. The last run of the fifth season was on Monday to Friday (well all six days:) )at 6.00pm. Hazz.... * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Matt Saunders wrote: >Yikes, so ABC have shown most episodes, like, three times? Did they >show it in a decent time slot? I'll bet they didn't stuff it somewhere >stupid like 4.40 on Friday afternoons like ITV did. > >Maybe this explains why it's more popular in Aus than over here... *Is* it more popular in Australia? Admittedly, most people seem to have heard of it in this country, but all the same I find that assertion a little hard to believe... Yeah, it has been on three times, except the final series, which we had to wait about two years for. The recent repeat of the final series got me all excited when I saw it in the listings... I thought they were showing the whole lot over, and had my video all poised to go, as I've never managed to tape the very first episode before (in fact, I've only seen it once, bloody ages ago the first time it was broadcast. The only thing I can remember is that there was a very PG running joke in it about a rumour that Spike had done something scandalous at some school event, but you never find out what it was he was supposed to have done...). I was so disappointed when it turned out to be the Winters-having-an-affair-with-his-secretary one... The ABC were just sticking PG in there to plug the gap until they were ready to show the new eps of "Heartbreak High" (derisive snort). xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au "The words which are criticized as 'dirty' are old Saxon words known to most men and, I venture, to many women, and are such words as would be naturally and habitually used, I believe, by the types of folk whose life, physical and mental, Joyce is seeking to describe. In respect of the recurrent emergence of the theme of sex in the minds of his characters, it must always be remembered that his locale is Celtic and his season Spring." * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" "I am the one and only, nobody I'd rather be, I am the one and only, You can't take that away from me..." I don't know why I like this film, it's not very good. Oh yes, it's because there's so many PG people and parallels there. Casting Director the same... no surprise there. None of the PG lot have particularly good roles, the script is cliched and predictable and the whole thing's just a vehicle for Chesney and Daltrey. Michael Elphick was cool as a well-dodgy rogue, and I don't remember seeing quite *that* much of Liza Walker last time I saw it ;-) Bringing this back reasonably on-topic, seeing Julia in a contemporary film playing a weaker and almost giggly character just doesn't seem right! Lee Ross (Kenny) was good when he occasionally got a line. All that band stuff makes me wanna go watch the last two eps of Series 2 again. I'd be interested to know which came first, "Kenny Phillips, Rock Star" or "Buddy's Song", and which influenced the other. I'm going to have that damned song knocking around my head for days now... Aargh! Later, Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970310024846.18092@yoyo.org> Barnaby Evans wrote (on Mar 7): > Matt Saunders wrote: > >Yikes, so ABC have shown most episodes, like, three times? Did they > >show it in a decent time slot? I'll bet they didn't stuff it somewhere > >stupid like 4.40 on Friday afternoons like ITV did. > > > >Maybe this explains why it's more popular in Aus than over here... > > *Is* it more popular in Australia? Admittedly, most people seem to have > heard of it in this country, but all the same I find that assertion a > little hard to believe... Most people seem to have heard of it? Wow! That's definitely different to over here... Since starting the Web Page some two years ago (ish), I think about 60-70% of all the mail I've had about it has been from Australia. Then again, maybe that just shows that Australians send more mail messages :-) > Yeah, it has been on three times, except the final series, which we had to > wait about two years for. The recent repeat of the final series got me all > excited when I saw it in the listings... I thought they were showing the > whole lot over, and had my video all poised to go, as I've never managed to > tape the very first episode before (in fact, I've only seen it once, bloody > ages ago the first time it was broadcast. The only thing I can remember is > that there was a very PG running joke in it about a rumour that Spike had > done something scandalous at some school event, but you never find out what > it was he was supposed to have done...). Yeah - I like that. First time I saw PG I thought I'd missed something, but a closer look shows one of those lovely little PG traits that we all seem to love... > I was so disappointed when it > turned out to be the > Winters-having-an-affair-with-his-secretary one... This was the ep that first elevated PG to the level of "totally brilliant" for me. I read in the Daily Mail some time afterwards some diatribe from a concerned parent criticising the show for not condemning the head for having the affair. OK, the storyline itself is a bit of a cliche, but the fact that PG didn't bother dwelling on the "married man, young secretary, this is BAD, kids!" angle, and instead came to the opposite conclusion really did it for me. If you see what I mean :-) > The ABC were just > sticking PG in there to plug the gap until they were ready to show the new > eps of "Heartbreak High" (derisive snort). I can excuse you lot for giving us Neighbours and H&A, but Heartbreak High is a show too far... :-) Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Matt Saunders wrote: >I don't know why I like this film, it's not very good. Oh yes, it's >because there's so many PG people and parallels there. Casting >Director the same... no surprise there. Is it a proper movie, or a TV film or what? Is it on video (probably not, I suppose). I'd really like to see it, even if it is a bit dodgy... I like Micheal Elphick, too. He was the mad poacher from Withnail & I, if I'm not very much mistaken. >Bringing this back reasonably on-topic, seeing Julia in a contemporary >film playing a weaker and almost giggly character just doesn't seem >right! I know "Buddy's Song" was made ages ago (so it doesn't count) but I reckon after playing Lynda and Saffron in Ab Fab, Julia seems to have been making a concerted effort to avoid being typecast in very 'serious' roles - witness Lydia in Pride & Prejudice, and then that dizzy bint in that Kenneth Branagh film about the actors putting on "Hamlet" (the name escapes me). >Since starting the Web Page some two years ago (ish), I think about >60-70% of all the mail I've had about it has been from Australia. Then >again, maybe that just shows that Australians send more mail messages >:-) Well, we do seem to have a kind of national obsession with communications technology - one in four Australians own a mobile phone (the highest rate of mobile ownership in the world - fact!) I wrote: >> I was so disappointed when it >> turned out to be the >> Winters-having-an-affair-with-his-secretary one... ... and Matt replied: >This was the ep that first elevated PG to the level of "totally >brilliant" for me. I read in the Daily Mail some time afterwards some >diatribe from a concerned parent criticising the show for not >condemning the head for having the affair. I dunno.. I find the last series to be quite substandard (relatively speaking, o'course), although the very last ep is brilliant. They all seem much shorter and not as fully realised; the Winters one seems to me to END really quickly, just as it's starting to get interesting, as do a lot of the others. I agree it dealt with the whole 'moral' issue in an interesting way though. >I can excuse you lot for giving us Neighbours and H&A, but Heartbreak >High is a show too far... :-) Whatever must you British think of us? Our only major cultural contributions to you seem to consist of terrible soaps and terrible pop stars.. and Rolf Harris. Sorry. xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au "It is said that the Duke de Courcey invited his water mechanic to the top of an elaborate cascade he had constructed, and asked him if he could build such a marvel for anyone else. The man, after offering various thanks and pleasantries, finally admitted that - with sufficient patronage - he probably could. With that the duke pushed him, gently, in the small of the back; and the wretched man plummeted to a watery death!" * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >I know "Buddy's Song" was made ages ago (so it doesn't count) but I reckon >after playing Lynda and Saffron in Ab Fab, Julia seems to have been making >a concerted effort to avoid being typecast in very 'serious' roles - >witness Lydia in Pride & Prejudice, and then that dizzy bint in that >Kenneth Branagh film about the actors putting on "Hamlet" (the name escapes >me). No way. And besides, the dizzy bint (Nina) from In The Bleak Midwinter was serious - the dizzy bint bit was mostly an act to hide it. She was giggly as Merry Pecksniff but got over that in a brilliant transformation when her bastard of a husband started bashing her.... the only really "dizzy" role I've seen her in is Lyddie. The only type-cast she is trying to avoid is the teenage daughter one, and she doesn't seem to be very successful in this.... even as a "grown up" (Midwinter) her father obviously still played a very important role in her life. In PG, Ab Fab, Faith, Chuzzlewit, and P&P - her main shows if I'm not mistaken - she is very much a daughter. That was a lie, she wasn't "very much" a daughter in Press Gang, but she was very much a teenager. Didn't you love it in the radio interview when Nadim said that Julia's best ever role was in Press Gang? The guy's a legend! * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > >I know "Buddy's Song" was made ages ago (so it doesn't count) but I reckon > >after playing Lynda and Saffron in Ab Fab, Julia seems to have been making > >a concerted effort to avoid being typecast in very 'serious' roles - > >witness Lydia in Pride & Prejudice, and then that dizzy bint in that > >Kenneth Branagh film about the actors putting on "Hamlet" (the name escapes > >me). John Joseph Fitzgerald writes: > No way. And besides, the dizzy bint (Nina) from In The Bleak Midwinter was > serious - the dizzy bint bit was mostly an act to hide it. She was giggly as > Merry Pecksniff but got over that in a brilliant transformation when her > bastard of a husband started bashing her.... the only really "dizzy" role > I've seen her in is Lyddie. The only type-cast she is trying to avoid is the > teenage daughter one, and she doesn't seem to be very successful in this.... > even as a "grown up" (Midwinter) her father obviously still played a very > important role in her life. In PG, Ab Fab, Faith, Chuzzlewit, and P&P - her > main shows if I'm not mistaken - she is very much a daughter. That was a > lie, she wasn't "very much" a daughter in Press Gang, but she was very much > a teenager. Didn't you love it in the radio interview when Nadim said that > Julia's best ever role was in Press Gang? The guy's a legend! John, I couldn't agree with you more. Why would Julia Sawalha wish to avoid serious roles ? It's serious roles, like Lynda Day, that gain you more respect and power in the acting business - by and large. It's just a shame that Julia has spent so long in her role as Hannah in that sitcom with Lynda Bellingham (Faith in the Future and whatever it's original name was !). Her role as Hannah is a complete and utter waste of her talent. I am a huge fan of Julia but I simply can't bear to watch her as Hannah, where she plays a stroppy and unlikeable teenager/young woman. It's a role for a lesser actress. I look foward to seeing Julia in roles that are of her own age. Her part in In The Bleak MidWinter was a good role for her. I'd like to see her play a serious complex character, like Lynda was. John, how did you get to hear Julia and Nadim Sawalha's radio interview in Australia ? Did someone tape it for you ? I too was very pleased to hear her father, Nadim, say that PRESS GANG is her best work so far. Nothing she has done since has stretched her as much. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Mar 1997, John Joseph Fitzgerald wrote: > > I've seen her in is Lyddie. The only type-cast she is trying to avoid is the > teenage daughter one, and she doesn't seem to be very successful in this.... After P&P and Chuzzlewit people were saying that she was being typecast as Helena Bonham-Carter, i.e. an english period piece actress with nice hair. Despite her appearence in Midwinter, I still fear this may happen. As an aside, is it just me or has mail on the Julia-Sawalha list really dried up since the PG list was created? I always suspected that the J-S list was simply made up of repressed Press Gang fans. (And some not-so-repressed ones :) matt. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" the js mailing list - i suspect it has dried up because there's nothing to talk about at the moment. she's back from india, but as yet - there's no news or anything to discuss. i'm not sure what you're getting at. do you mean the js list comprises solely of pg fans who like julia as a result of this show, but are more excitable about pg than the woman herself? I love pg, don't get me wrong, but Julia is my main concern. Lynda is definitely her best role to date - i'm sure she'll come through again. so long as she's working right? so many people are out there struggling to get anything - be thankful Julia can pick and choose. i agree that she's plyed Hannah for far too long - but i don't think Hannah is unlikeable. She just has far too many boyfriends and she seems very easliy influenced - perhaps a trait reflected in Julia....... love to all, Nik * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" In message <199703121210_MC2-127A-664F@compuserve.com> Nik Richardson writes: > She just has far too many boyfriends and she seems very > easliy influenced - perhaps a trait reflected in Julia....... With fans like this, who needs enemies ? I can only hope that the nastiness of your comment was not intended. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970312181121.03545@yoyo.org> Vince Deehan wrote (on Mar 12): > In message <199703121210_MC2-127A-664F@compuserve.com> Nik Richardson writes: > > She just has far too many boyfriends and she seems very > > easliy influenced - perhaps a trait reflected in Julia....... > > With fans like this, who needs enemies ? > > I can only hope that the nastiness of your comment was not intended. Well, they do say that the biggest fans are the most scathing in their attacks. I know that I criticise PG better than any TV critic when I'm watching it. One of my mates once asked me: "I thought you *liked* this programme?"... Just my tuppence... Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >> She just has far too many boyfriends and she seems very >> easliy influenced - perhaps a trait reflected in Julia....... > >With fans like this, who needs enemies ? Can I please just say, what the hell sort of an over-reaction was that? Nik's comment wasn't an insult, it was a - comment! And let's just boast on her behalf cause this is a new list and all that Nik and Mark have been officially told that they aren't fans of Julia they are FRIENDS. So ner. Not that I'm defensive. hail Julia and all things wonderful most definitely including Press Gang... Siobhan (NOT JOHN) (FEMALE RATHER THAN MALE) P.S. Anyone else heard about the new programme Sandy and Steven are doing together? Don't know what it's about yet but filming's due to start in September. Therefore it probably won't. P.P.S. Frank you bugger get your pen out and write a message won't you. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" URGENT NOTE TO UK PG FANS ! I know this is very short notice, but I've only just found out that Steven Moffat will be interviewed tonight (Thursday night/Friday morning 13 March) on ITV on the comedy programe FUNNY BUSINESS. It's on at 00:45 in the London area, I've no idea if it gets shown regionally. I do hope that everyone who has access to this show in the UK will get to see it. I'm only sorry i didn't find out sooner. All the best, ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970314003943.36994@yoyo.org> Vince Deehan wrote (on Mar 13): > URGENT NOTE TO UK PG FANS ! > > I know this is very short notice, but I've only just found out that > Steven Moffat will be interviewed tonight (Thursday night/Friday morning > 13 March) on ITV on the comedy > programe FUNNY BUSINESS. It's on at 00:45 in the London area, I've no > idea if it gets shown regionally. Nice one Vince, thanks for letting us know. > I do hope that everyone who has access to this show in the UK will get to see > it. I'm only sorry i didn't find out sooner. Duh, me too... I usually notice these sort of things: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 12.45 Funny Business Iain Coyle meets Steven Moffat, creator of the BBC comedy Chalk. Stereo ... 3281085 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ...from my Radio Times. Carlton, Central, Granada, Yorkshire have it at 0040 or 0045, Anglia, HTV and Meridian have it at 0110. Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Just got back from seeing THE ENGLISH PATIENT. It's an excellent film that I recommend highly. I was very surprised to see that Lee Ross was in the film. I didn't know about this and so it was a pleasant surprise to see him. His role is so tiny that he only gets one line and appears fleetingly as a peripheral actor in a couple of scenes. I would have thought it quite likely that his role must have been heavily cut since it seems preposterous to have him do so little in the film. It's even smaller than the role Dexter Fletcher plays in JUDE - just one very short scene as a priest. Lee Ross' best film role so far is in SECRETS AND LIES, but those of you who haven't seen it should check out the football hooligan movie I.D. where Lee is excellent as a very scruffy simpleton called (I think) Gumbo. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Steven Moffat's new sitcom CHALK has now been on for 4 weeks. I'm enjoying it and I find it a lot funnier than JOKING APART which I was never a fan of. Steven put in a nice reference just for us PG fans (and of course his own amusement) in the fourth episode. When talking about another school one of the characters refered to a school called NORBRIDGE HIGH. Ring any bells ? ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970315194621.04030@yoyo.org> Vince Deehan wrote (on Mar 15): > Steven Moffat's new sitcom CHALK has now been on for 4 weeks. I'm > enjoying it and I find it a lot funnier than JOKING APART which I was > never a fan of. Have to disagree there, Eric Slatt is just too close to Basil Fawlty for my liking, and the storylines are too contrived IMO. Maybe this is just me being an overly harsh fan! (see Julia thread) > Steven put in a nice reference just for us PG fans (and of > course his own amusement) in the fourth episode. When talking about another > school one of the characters refered to a school called NORBRIDGE HIGH. Ring > any bells ? Yeah - I noticed that too. Either a subtle cult reference or he couldn't be bothered to think of some original names? Me? A cynic? :-) Matt. -- ----------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s ----------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) System Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- e: matts@yoyo.org t: +44(0)973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > Steven Moffat's new sitcom CHALK has now been on for 4 weeks. I'm > enjoying it and I find it a lot funnier than JOKING APART which I was > never a fan of. Steven put in a nice reference just for us PG fans (and of > course his own amusement) in the fourth episode. When talking about another > school one of the characters refered to a school called NORBRIDGE HIGH. Ring > any bells ? Not to mention Donald Cooper, someone or other whose surname was Talwinning, and the up-coming David Jefford in the episode which was supposed to be on this Thursday. Anyone know why the scheduled episode (supposedly about a football match) wasn't shown? -- Laura * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" In last week's episode of Chalk (Steven Moffat's school base sitcom) there was a reference to another school called Norbridge High... I also notice that the cast list for next week's episode includes a character called Dr Clipstone, who I seem to remember was the psychiatrist from "UnXpected" (although here he's not played by Michael Sheard). And we had mention of a Talwinney in the first or second episode (FYI, Steven Moffat seems to include someone or something called Talwinney in most things he writes - as a street name in PG and Joking Apart and a character in Murder Most Horrid). Regards, Matthew. -- Matthew J Newton "People say that I'm too reasonable to have Dorchester, Dorset, UK. opinions, but I don't know about that." matthew@mjnewton.demon.co.uk [Kenny Philips, "PRESS GANG"] * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" In message <1333@salmo.demon.co.uk> Laura Nunn writes: > Not to mention Donald Cooper, Well spotted, Laura. I missed that one. Am I right in thinking Donald Cooper was the name of the clown character in THE LAST WORD ? I also spotted that a close friend of Steven's, Eddie Allison (he often posts pro-Moffat posts on Usenet) got used as the name of a pupil in (I think) the 2nd episode. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Damn - i'be been beaten to it! I too noticed the donald Cooper, Talwinning and Norbridge High references - but there is another very obscure thing. The scene in which Eric Slatt is having the interview with the school govereners or whatever they were. he was wearing a wire which that woman teacher found out about and began telling him his crotch was on fire leading him to chuck a glass of water over his trousers, mid interview. This scene is taken directly from the Press gang film Dead Line with Spike and Lynda in the roles..... bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about Satr Wars?!!!! Nik * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: Speaking of the PG film "Dead Line"... where can I find a copy of the script?? It sounds like at least a few of you have read it - is it publicly available, or what??? Sandra ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970316234247.47909@yoyo.org> Vince Deehan wrote (on Mar 16): > In message <1333@salmo.demon.co.uk> Laura Nunn writes: > > > Not to mention Donald Cooper, > > Well spotted, Laura. I missed that one. Am I right in thinking Donald Cooper > was the name of the clown character in THE LAST WORD ? Right. > I also spotted that a close friend of Steven's, Eddie Allison (he often posts > pro-Moffat posts on Usenet) got used as the name of a pupil in (I think) the > 2nd episode. Well, perks of being a writer I spose; you get five minutes of fame for all your pals :-) Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970316234130.06638@yoyo.org> Nik Richardson wrote (on Mar 16): > Damn - i'be been beaten to it! I too noticed the donald Cooper, Talwinning > and Norbridge High references - but there is another very obscure thing. > The scene in which Eric Slatt is having the interview with the school > govereners or whatever they were. he was wearing a wire which that woman > teacher found out about and began telling him his crotch was on fire > leading him to chuck a glass of water over his trousers, mid interview. > This scene is taken directly from the Press gang film Dead Line with Spike > and Lynda in the roles..... > bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about Satr > Wars?!!!! No way, what you just said is far more interesting! Now, if you've seen the script, or *have* the script; do you fancy sharing it with the rest of us? :-) I could have it HTMLed and on the web site within 7 days if someone was nice enough to let me borrow a copy... Or is this one of those things that only goes around closed circles, passed from person to person in a brown paper bag under the clock at Waterloo station? Anyone know how Steven would feel about giving the great unread script a wider audience, and putting an end to all the rumours about it? Hmm. Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Nik Richardson wrote: > bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about Satr > Wars?!!!! > > Nik. Sure, so... Obviously Kenny & Lynda are brother & sister but were seperated at birth to protect them from the empire, and their real father, the evil Mr. Winters. Kenny & Lynda oppose Winter's evil reign, and Mr. Winter's tries to crush their puny little rebellion by telling them that they can't do their exams at the same time. However, with help from an infamous american loner, Spike 'Han Solo' Thompson, and his ever dependable wookie friend (Frazz) they defeat Mr. Winter's plan. Kenny is shown the ways of the force by Mr. Sullivan, who is actualy Princess Leia's father's ex roomate, and trained the evil winters in student discipline. R2D2 is Tiddler (short and annoying) C3P0 is Sam Black (golden tan) and Colin is the alien with the funny tubular mouth that Han Solo Shoots in the bar scene in 'A New Hope'. While Kenny & Lynda were initially attracted, now they know they are brother & sister, Lynda gets Spike on the re-bound. Sophie & Laura are the little 'Jawa' things that run around on luke's home planet captuaring droids and generally looking stupid. Chrissie, what can chrissie be???? ummm, how about the woman that tells the Endor attack team what to do in 'Jedi', i forget her name. Okay, anyone else I've missed out...? Matt Kerr? I dunno. Sarah! How could I forget her! I dunno what she can be either. It seems these lucid blasts of inspiration don't last long with me. *sigh* Matthew Neale. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Matthew Neale wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Nik Richardson wrote: > > > bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about Satr > > Wars?!!!! > > > > Nik. > > ...Colin is the alien with the funny tubular mouth that > Han Solo Shoots in the bar scene in 'A New Hope'. Colin is obviously Jabba the Col > ...Sophie & Laura are the little 'Jawa' things > that run around on luke's home planet captuaring droids and generally > looking stupid. Nunno, they're Ewoks- small, prickly and generally annoying > ..Okay, anyone else I've missed out...? Matt Kerr? I dunno. Governor Tarkin > Sarah! How could I forget her! I dunno what she can be either. The Rebels' big boss lady who stands around looking like a figurehead. Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Vince Deehan wrote: >Just got back from seeing THE ENGLISH PATIENT. >I was very surprised to see that Lee Ross was in the >film. His role is so tiny that he only gets one line and appears fleetingly >as a peripheral actor in a couple of scenes. It must have been a tiny role coz I just saw The English Patient and I missed him altogether! If I'd known in advance I'd have been on the lookout... I thought he was good in Secrets & Lies, although very different. This monosyllabic hardman scaffolder; not the cuddly teddybear Kenny of old. >It's even smaller than the role Dexter >Fletcher plays in JUDE - just one very short scene as a priest. With a beard, looking very ugly & almost unrecognisable.. Whilst we're on the subject, the film "Basquiat" which has just come out here in Aus, features Clare Forlani (sp?) - who played Judy Wellman, Colin's sometime love interest - as JMB's girlfriend. And there's a brilliant film of Orwell's 1984 made in - hey! - 1984 which features an uncredited Kelda Holmes in a don't-blink-or-you'll-miss-her appearance as one of a group of uniformed children singing a song on a train. So now you know. What ever happened to Gabrielle Anwar - she seemed all set for big things with Scent of a Woman & that other one with Michael J. Fox, but she's kind of disappeared. (...anticipating a hail of responses going "no, no, you're completely WRONG! She hasn't at ALL!") Matt Saunders wrote: >No way, what you just said is far more interesting! Now, if you've >seen the script, or *have* the script; do you fancy sharing it with >the rest of us? :-) > >I could have it HTMLed and on the web site within 7 days if someone >was nice enough to let me borrow a copy... This would be wonderful, obviously - but isn't there the small matter of copyright to consider?! xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au "Skill without imagination is craftsmanship, and gives us many useful items such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art." * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" (Barnaby Evans) writes: > It must have been a tiny role coz I just saw The English Patient and I > missed him altogether! If I'd known in advance I'd have been on the > lookout... I didn't know Lee was in THE ENGLISH PATIENT in advance but I happened to see someone who looked like him in a couple of scenes but thought "naah, can't be him", then suddenly he reappeared and I got a better view of him and realised it was. To refresh your memory, Barnaby, remember the scene where Kevin Whately's character pushes a young soldier off a ladder - well that was Lee. > Whilst we're on the subject, the film "Basquiat" which has just come out > here in Aus, features Clare Forlani (sp?) - who played Judy Wellman, Clare also played Sean Connery's daughter in THE ROCK and was also in Kevin Smith's MALLRATS. She's doing quite well for herself. > What ever happened to Gabrielle Anwar - she seemed all set for big > things with Scent of a Woman & that other one with Michael J. Fox, but > she's kind of disappeared. (...anticipating a hail of responses going "no, > no, you're completely WRONG! She hasn't at ALL!") Check out THINGS TO DO IN DENVER WHEN YOU'RE DEAD where Gabrielle plays Andy Garcia's girlfriend. It's a fantastic film. > Matt Saunders wrote: > >No way, what you just said is far more interesting! Now, if you've > >seen the script, or *have* the script; do you fancy sharing it with > >the rest of us? :-) > > > >I could have it HTMLed and on the web site within 7 days if someone > >was nice enough to let me borrow a copy... If only this were possible, Matt. I would think it unlikely that Steven would allow this, but I can't say for sure. Definitely worth investigating just to see if it could be done. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" In your message dated Sunday 16, March 1997 you wrote : > Nik Richardson wrote (on Mar 16): > > This scene is taken directly from the Press gang film Dead Line with Spike > > and Lynda in the roles..... > > bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about Satr > > Wars?!!!! > By all means... four days to go and I will be back to my childhood once again (certainly the feeling of excitement is comparable to twenty years ago!). Can't wait to see those X-Wings and TIE Fighters do battle again. It'll be only the second time I've seen it on the cinema screen since 1977! Matt Saunders replied: > No way, what you just said is far more interesting! Now, if you've > seen the script, or *have* the script; do you fancy sharing it with > the rest of us? :-) > Ah yes, the fabled PG film script. Regulars at the PG conventions will know that there's someone who persistently questions anyone connected with the show about this, probing for just about every snippet of information imaginable... that's me! I've always wanted to read this script; I first heard about it back in 1991 (when the original version was written) but even all these years later, I still haven't read the damn thing. I asked Dexter about it at length back at Christmas '92 (he hadn't read it himself, but relayed Julia's comments as far as he could remember them) and I also got some more information from Lucy B when I met her. With the advent of the conventions, I saw the opportunity for more digging; I've even tried to persuade Steven to novelise it (without success!), because it's highly unlikely to ever be made now (although the last time they tried to negotiate a repeat run - with the Family Channel - there was some hope that they might get financial backing from them to produce the film as an exclusive extra). > I could have it HTMLed and on the web site within 7 days if someone > was nice enough to let me borrow a copy... > Seconded. It would also, at long last, ensure that the Dead Line section on the Complete Series Guide was totally accurate (as it is, this is a loose assemblage of just about every snippet and fact I've been able to amass over the years, but it is hardly definitive given that I haven't read the thing in any form!). > Or is this one of those things that only goes around closed circles, > passed from person to person in a brown paper bag under the clock at > Waterloo station? Anyone know how Steven would feel about giving the > great unread script a wider audience, and putting an end to all the > rumours about it? There are certainly private copies in circulation, but as it's a copyright work (and unbroadcast too) these are (I imagine) held on a strictly unofficial basis. I remember in the days of BREAKFAST AT CZAR'S, there was a lot of talk of the script being eventually serialised in the fanzine, but as there was still some hope of the film being made at that time, it was held off, just in case. Anyway, as far as my two penneth goes, here's what I know (please feel free to contradict me if any of this is wrong, won't you Nik? They could have been winding me up, for all I know!) based on my repeated interrogations over the years... . * Deputy Editorship split between Kenny and Julie. * Film is set five years post-TAC, although they're all still at the Junior Gazette. * Spike has a job as a radio DJ. * Film ends with Lynda driving a truck over some cars (!) * The closest it has ever got to being made was immediately post season 5. Studio space was booked and everything, but Julia's unexpected commitment to AbFab series 2 scuppered it; they tried for a remount in December 93, but this also fell through and it was never attempted again to my knowledge. * Lewis Rudd hinted that it was intended to be a sequel to PG rather than a continuation, and that the film was geared entirely for an adult audience. * The cliffhanger at the end of TAC isn't resolved (or even referred to) in the film. As far as I recall there are more bits and bobs on the Complete Series Guide at http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidos/pgguide.txt . I can't remember anything else of significance... the old grey matter's not what it once was, alas! I think that if you wanted to put it on the site, Matt, you'd have to get Steven's explicit approval even if it "originated" from another source; it's his unpublished work after all, at the end of the day. How about emailing him about it? Even Douglas Adams' uncompleted Doctor Who story was released on video eventually, so at this point Steven might be more receptive to releasing it than he was a couple of years ago. After all, at the moment PG is like an unfinished symphony, with the best part (by repute at least) still shrouded in mystery, legend and conjecture. As I doubt it will ever be produced now for the screen, it seems a shame the script is just left to gather dust on the shelves when it could keep our mailing list going for years to come! By the way, on the subject of fanzines and the like, does anyone know if BREAKFAST AT CZAR'S is still going (Nik?)? Since the change of editorship, I haven't heard anything from the guys up in the 'pool. It would be a shame if it had gone defunct... particularly as I ordered issues 2 and 5 in July 1995 and am still waiting to receive them! . I had an article in 5 as well... Cheers, Ade -- _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk I could not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope Classic TV http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: In a message entitled "Re: [pressgang] DEAD LINE (was Chalk reference)", Adrian E C Petford wrote: >I think that if you wanted to put it on the site, Matt, you'd have to get >Steven's explicit approval even if it "originated" from another source; it's his >unpublished work after all, at the end of the day. How about emailing him about >it? Even Douglas Adams' uncompleted Doctor Who story was released on video >eventually, so at this point Steven might be more receptive to releasing it than >he was a couple of years ago. After all, at the moment PG is like an unfinished >symphony, with the best part (by repute at least) still shrouded in mystery, >legend and conjecture. As I doubt it will ever be produced now for the screen, >it seems a shame the script is just left to gather dust on the shelves when it >could keep our mailing list going for years to come! But, AFAIK, Steven still would, in an ideal world, like it made. Mind you the older the cast get the less likely it's all to work I think. All the time it could get made into a real film I would have thought the chances of a public showing unlikely? Exclusivity does mean something, even in the film world. A couple more years though and I'd expect it to be shelved for good. Still, Steven owes me a favour, perhaps I'll ask him :-) >* By default, replies are directed back to this list, >* not to the author of the message you're replying to. Not if there's already a Reply-To: in the headers Matt, i.e. >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:01:22 GMT >From: Adrian E C Petford >Reply-To: pg-mailing@petford.demon.co.uk >To: pressgang@yoyo.org >Subject: Re: [pressgang] DEAD LINE (was Chalk reference) >X-User: Alpha Test Version Of FI-Mail, DisWin 1.5C:\WINSOCK\WINDIS >X-No-Archive: yes >Lines: 119 >Sender: owner-pressgang@yoyo.org >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: "Press Gang Mailing List" Simon. -- Simon Thornton, Brighton, UK. Sound Engineering, Editing, Design. simon@team-sp.org Will mix records for food. simonth@mistral.co.uk * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Adrian E C Petford wrote: > In your message dated Sunday 16, March 1997 you wrote : > > > Nik Richardson wrote (on Mar 16): > > > > > > This scene is taken directly from the Press gang film Dead Line with Spike > > > and Lynda in the roles..... > > * Film ends with Lynda driving a truck over some cars (!) I read this on (I think) the kalidescope web site, or the series guide or something and to me this ending sounds a bit superficial (sp) for Press Gang (and for Moffatt, although I havn't seen any of his other works) and also a bit anti-climactic. I'm sticking my neck out here cos I know nothing about the situation (perhaps spike is *in* one of the cars :) but it does seem false to me. Look at the endings of all the PG series and they all end with nothing overt happening, but with tons of tension between the people involved in the final scene(s). The tension, of course, being the final point of a huge lead up. So it seems to me that driving over cars may well happen at some point in the film (it'd be a great scene) but seems out of character for a PG ending. just my two cents... Matthew Neale. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970318060823.34114@yoyo.org> Adrian said: > >I think that if you wanted to put it on the site, Matt, you'd have to get > >Steven's explicit approval even if it "originated" from another source; it's his Simon says: > But, AFAIK, Steven still would, in an ideal world, like it made. Mind > you the older the cast get the less likely it's all to work I think. Yeah. Somehow I don't think that PG has the same sort of nostalgic interest that made ST: The Motion Picture work... :-( > All the time it could get made into a real film I would have thought > the chances of a public showing unlikely? Exclusivity does mean > something, even in the film world. > > A couple more years though and I'd expect it to be shelved for good. Interesting to hear people's views on this one. I think I'd better make it clear that if I was to get my grubby mits on the script, it wouldn't go up anywhere public without Steven's say-so. He's God, and treading on his toes doesn't seem like a particularly good move to me... :-) [Warning: techy stuff ahead - you don't need to read this :-) ] > >* By default, replies are directed back to this list, > >* not to the author of the message you're replying to. > > Not if there's already a Reply-To: in the headers Matt, i.e. Hmm. Something else I need to fiddle with; along with taking the email addresses out from the archive as an anti-spam measure. Majordomo is supposed to strip out lines like that, as I don't think there is defined correct behaviour for a mailer when it sees two of something. And the mail server itself is a bit broken; it's rewriting things that it shouldn't be; though hopefully you lot will not have been affected. I'll fix it later :-) Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Widya Santoso wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Matthew Neale wrote: > > ...Colin is the alien with the funny tubular mouth that > > Han Solo Shoots in the bar scene in 'A New Hope'. > > Colin is obviously Jabba the Col Of course! how silly of me not to realise that colin would obviously end up running a huge organised crime cartel! Although I must say, It'll take more than a bad hair cut to get colin looking as ugly as Jabba. > > > ...Sophie & Laura are the little 'Jawa' things > > that run around on luke's home planet captuaring droids and generally > > looking stupid. > > Nunno, they're Ewoks- small, prickly and generally annoying Nunno Nunno[1] I have to disagree with you here, Sophie and Laura are no where near cute enough to qualify as Ewoks, and can you imagine them actaully *helping* Kenny & Lynda in the rebelion???? If colin is going to be jabba, then sophie & laura are probably barmaids on his barge, or bounty hunters, yeah, that makes sense. I can just see them there: S: "we have come for the wookie" L: "the science department wouldn't let us have their rabbit" > Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 matthew neale. [1] This gratuitous mork & mindy reference was, in fact, the only reason i decided to post this message. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > > What ever happened to Gabrielle Anwar - she seemed all set for big > > things with Scent of a Woman & that other one with Michael J. Fox, but > > she's kind of disappeared. (...anticipating a hail of responses going "no, > > no, you're completely WRONG! She hasn't at ALL!") > > Check out THINGS TO DO IN DENVER WHEN YOU'RE DEAD where Gabrielle plays > Andy Garcia's girlfriend. It's a fantastic film. > And don't forget she plays the lead in the remake of Body Snatchers... Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970318215807.006944fc@powerup.com.au> >And don't forget she plays the lead in the remake of Body Snatchers... > Well I wouldn't say she played the lead, but she would definetly like to forget it I would say Hazz... * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: > >> Nik Richardson wrote (on Mar 16): > >> > bloody hell, i feel like an anorak now. Anyone want to talk about > >> > Star Wars?!!!! > Adrian E C Petford wrote: > >By all means... four days to go and I will be back to my childhood once again > >(certainly the feeling of excitement is comparable to twenty years ago!). > >Can't > >wait to see those X-Wings and TIE Fighters do battle again. It'll be only the > >second time I've seen it on the cinema screen since 1977! > Barnaby Evans replied: > I wasn't even born in 1977! Gulp... that really makes me feel old, I can tell you! Mind you, the student intake this year at the college where I work are now starting to list their birthdates as the early eighties, which really does bring the passing years home. I still think of myself as only a few years ahead of them, whereas I was doing the equivalent courses over ten years ago now and it's nearly nine years since I went up to university! Staggering... >>But yes, isn't it exciting??!! Two days to go and the seats are already pre-booked at the local multiplex (no flea-pit, claustrophobic tiny cinema with the picture going in and out of focus for us this time, unlike on the original release!)... Can't wait. I'm even more excited about Empire, which follows a few weeks later (over here at least). Anyway, enough of this off-topic rambling and back to the stated business of this fine list: > > Cheers Adrian for all the Dead Line info.. You're quite welcome. The only cautionary note I would attach is a big DISCLAIMER saying that it's only what I've been told, gleaned over a long period of time from many different sources, all of which could be inaccurate, contradictory, or a distortion of the truth. I haven't read the script, so it could all be totally wrong or completely right; I just don't know. I don't think anyone will have a definitive answer as to DEAD LINE's exact content until it's released in whatever form. >Please please Matt get in touch > with SM if you can (& you haven't done so already!) What a treat it would > be... Seconded. Even if Steven still won't release the script, at least he might write a piece *about* it for the site. After all these years in stasis, a few morsels of info about it probably wouldn't do any harm even if we don't get to see the whole thing. Regards, Ade _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. I could |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope UK TV: http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Hello to all P.G. fans! Just a quickie, as you've all been talking about Dead Line for a while now, I thought I would mention that I've read it, and at the time (erm...December 1993) I thought it was brilliant. It's fading fast from my memory now unfortunately, but I remembered the scene from Chalk a couple of weeks ago. (In fact, I was the one that told Nik about it...) In Dead Line Spike is indeed a disc jockey, and he goes to interview some beautiful female celebrity wearing a hidden microphone and earplug (like Colin in "In the Picture"). I think Frazz is in a van outside (let's face it, it's usually Frazz), and Lynda finds out. She grabs the mike from Frazz and starts the exact same conversation that featured in Chalk - ending up with Spike grabbing a jug of water and pouring it over his trousers. There was also a scene with Colin and a suspender belt!? Trying to get Lynda to wear it or something. Oh, and a very scary bit with Lynda in a cave and an old man standing behind her. Of absolutely no use, I know. Sorry. I've tried to get a copy of the script but anyone who knows Stephen O'Brien will know what a slack git he is. Speaking of which, Breakfast At Czars is dead and buried. He was going to hand it over to.....Jim Sangster? But he couldn't be arsed to carry on with it either. And besides, it was never as good as the Julia Gazette. If it's Press Gang you want, try "Gang Way." 9 out of 10 readers said their cats preferred it. "You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!" Love to all Mark Whittingham - of the Mos Eisley Whittinghams. * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Okay here's what I know about Dead line. I don't actually have a copy of the script, but I did read through it in a dingy London flat about three years ago. It begins with Lynda walking down a street late at night and she starts to hear voices saying "Lynda Day, i know what you really want..." obviously she's a bit freaked out. She's still working on the Junior Gazette which is now called the Chronicle, and she's fed up with her stagnating career. So this spooky guy gets in touch with their biggest story ever. At this point I believe both Spike and Frazz are working at a radio station, but Spike and Lynda are not together at the beginning of the story. The Dead Line is a bunch of cargo ships sailing endlessly round the world until the end of time carrying apocalyptic amounts of toxic waste. There's a character in it (possible the spooky bloke who keeps whispering to lynda) called The Dutchman. Lynda gets to drive a tank at some point. There are only a few lines I can remember. At one point, the newsroom is invaded by reporters from tv stations other newspapers etc....and Lynda goes mental shouting "Will everybody from the media leave now!!!!!" and the entire room empties. So she's like "Let me make myself more clear, will everybody from the media leave now, unless you work here...." Spike wears a hideous shirt to which Lynda comments "I like your shirt. it would look good with shoulders..." And the only other thing I can remember is Spike driving up to Lynda in a flash sports car at which point this exchange occurs: Spike "What do you think of the new wheels?" Lynda "Seriously phallic" Spike "Thanks. What do you think of the new wheels?" There is also a scene where Lynda goes into a block of derilict flats looking for someone. Spike and Frazz are waiting in a van across the road, instructed to go looking for her if she's not out in ten minutes. Ten minutes passes, and just as Lynda emerges from the building, her search fruitless, Spike jumps out of the van, about to go after her. He switches on his torch, and the beam swings to a window to the side of Lynda as she exits the building - illuminating for a brief second a hideous leering old man - like .....metres away from her!!!!! It's one of those scenes that brings tears to your eyes, reading it , just thinking about it. If we ever got to see it, you'd all shit yourselves - it's a horrible moment! So there you go. Now you know everything about Dead line that i do. Apart from what happens between Spike and Lynda at the end. the end of all Press Gang. What situation does it leave Spike and Lynda in? Well, i'm not telling you, HARGH!!!! Unless anyone is prepared to give me a million pounds so i don't have to bother organising a pension fund. Nik * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Great stuff, at long last some more Dead Line info to ponder, and totally legit and accurate at that. Thanks a lot to Nik and Mark for that; I'd almost given up hope of ever finding out anything beyond what I'd gleaned already from miscellaneous crew and cast members. Ta! Funnily enough, my machine crashed when trying to process both of the below messages for some bizarre reason, which makes me suspect that there must be someone lurking in some dark recess of cyberspace, who really doesn't want me to know any more about Dead Line! Mark wrote: >It's fading fast from my memory now unfortunately, but I remembered the >scene from Chalk a couple of weeks ago. (In fact, I was the one that told >Nik about it...) I wish I'd kept up with Chalk now, just to see that scene! (I missed an episode and haven't got round to watching any more since). >In Dead Line Spike is indeed a disc jockey, >and he goes to interview some >beautiful female celebrity wearing a hidden microphone and earplug (like >Colin in "In the Picture"). I think Frazz is in a van outside (let's face >it, it's usually Frazz), and Lynda finds out. She grabs the mike from >Frazz and starts the exact same conversation that featured in Chalk - >ending up with Spike grabbing a jug of water and pouring it over his >trousers. Dexter told me about the DJ-ing (in fact he also said how much he was looking forward to playing those scenes - shame) but it's nice to have some of the context. Cheers! >There was also a scene with Colin and a suspender belt!? Trying to get >Lynda to wear it or something. Excellent; I can just visualise that one! Makes me wonder whether all this fan speculation about a Colin/Lynda liaison (expanded brilliantly in fan fiction on countless occasions) would have been developed "officially" in the film. Hmmm... >Oh, and a very scary bit with Lynda in a cave and an old man standing >behind her. For me, this sort of thing is what Steven was best at, which is probably why I don't like his situation comedy work nearly as much as PG (or the first series of Joking Apart, which also had its darker moments). He's a comedy-drama writer, and a phenomenal one at that; I personally feel that he's wasting his talent just doing standard sit-com. But that one's another issue entirely... >Of absolutely no use, I know. Sorry. I've tried to get a copy of the >script Likewise (from the same source as well!). I didn't get anywhere either, which is why I always hoped it would eventually get into the fanzine as promised. But then I was naive and gullible in those days... >but anyone who knows Stephen O'Brien will know what a slack git he >is. I'm not saying a word . I'm still faintly hoping that those BAC issues I ordered in July 1995 might turn up some day... maybe to celebrate the coming of the new millenium, perhaps? >Speaking of which, Breakfast At Czars is dead and buried. He was going to >hand it over to.....Jim Sangster? Yes. >But he couldn't be arsed to carry on >with it either. Again, no comment . To be fair, they did do the Programme Guide, and very good it was too. I found in my own case that after three or four years living and breathing PG while I was developing the Complete Series Guide, doing stuff on the net, visiting locations and writing articles etc, that eventually my enthusiasm burned out totally (in fact it was only jump-started again briefly for the two conventions and fired up more in earnest with the arrival of the PG mailing list. I still haven't watched an episode for over two years... must try to do something about that one soon!). The same could be true of the guys up in the 'pool. Well, I'd like to believe that, anyway... >And besides, it was never as good as the Julia Gazette. I liked both for different reasons, but agree that the JG did have an irresistible cool style and definite edge that set it above probably every other fanzine I've ever seen (that's definitely a pint you owe me!). That "Baby Julias" piece still makes me laugh whenever I think of it even now! >If it's Press Gang you want, try "Gang Way." 9 out of 10 readers said >their cats preferred it. Will do. Can anyone provide some details (not least so I can give it a section [aka blatant plug] in the Complete Series Guide) as, though I've heard of this, the title is about all I know. "You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!" Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow! And an Omnibus on George Lucas too on Sunday! Nik added: >It begins with Lynda walking down a street late at night and she starts to >hear voices saying "Lynda Day, i know what you really want..." obviously >she's a bit freaked out. She's still working on the Junior Gazette which >is now called the Chronicle, and she's fed up with her stagnating career. >So this spooky guy gets in touch with their biggest story ever. At this >point I believe both Spike and Frazz are working at a radio station, but >Spike and Lynda are not together at the beginning of the story. The Dead >Line is a bunch of cargo ships sailing endlessly round the world until the >end of time carrying apocalyptic amounts of toxic waste. Very much in the style of There Are Crocodiles (as hinted at by Steven) then, by the sound of it. It must be a mad world we live in when more material like that can't be sold to our TV bosses, but then again it would have been financed by the company now responsible for "Pet Power", so it's probably not all that surprising really.... >There's a >character in it (possible the spooky bloke who keeps whispering to lynda) >called The Dutchman. >Lynda gets to drive a tank at some point. Aha... a TANK! Much more appropriate for Lynda than a truck (what Dexter told me). What a shame we'll probably never get to see that scene realised on the screen... it probably would have been one of the all-time best PG moments. >There are only a few lines I can remember. >At one point, the newsroom is invaded by reporters from tv stations other >newspapers etc....and Lynda goes mental shouting "Will everybody from the >media leave now!!!!!" and the entire room empties. So she's like "Let me >make myself more clear, will everybody from the media leave now, unless >youwork here...." All these scenes as described are so easy to imagine even though they only exist on a page, which just goes to show how distinct the PG style was. >Spike wears a hideous shirt to which Lynda comments "I like your shirt. >it would look good with shoulders..." >And the only other thing I can remember is Spike driving up to Lynda in a >flash sports car at which point this exchange occurs: >Spike "What do you think of the new wheels?" >Lynda "Seriously phallic" >Spike "Thanks. What do you think of the new wheels?" >There is also a scene where Lynda goes into a block of derilict flats >looking for someone. Spike and Frazz are waiting in a van across the road, >instructed to go looking for her if she's not out in ten minutes. Ten >minutes passes, and just as Lynda emerges from the building, her search >fruitless, Spike jumps out of the van, about to go after her. He >switches on his torch, and the beam swings to a window to the side of >Lynda as she exits the building - illuminating for a brief second a >hideous leering old man - like .....metres away from her!!!!! It's one of >those scenes that brings tears to your eyes, reading it , just thinking >about it. If we ever got to see it, you'd all shit yourselves - it's a >horrible moment! Sounds like it, for sure! As I said above, it just goes to show how powerful the writing is when a scene can have such a vivid effect. >So there you go. Now you know everything about Dead line that i do. >Apart from what happens between Spike and Lynda at the end. the end of >all Press Gang. What situation does it leave Spike and Lynda in? Well, >i'm not telling you, HARGH!!!! Unless anyone is prepared to give me a >million pounds so i don't have to bother organising a pension fund. You're a hard woman, Richardson... would that be a cheque, cash (100 pound Royal Bank of Scotland notes of course), or do you accept all major credit and charge cards? Cheers, Ade _| Adrian E.C. Petford "You might very well think that. I could |_ _| adrian@petford.demon.co.uk not possibly comment" |_ _| http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/adrian.html - Francis Urquhart |_ _| Kaleidoscope UK TV: http://www.petford.demon.co.uk/kaleidoscope.html |_ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >> I wasn't even born in 1977! > >Gulp... that really makes me feel old, I can tell you! Sorry! It wasn't meant to, honest! All this talk about Dead Line is making my head spin! My appetite is well and truly whetted; now all I want to do now is read the thing, but I can't! Bastards. I can't even console myself with old PG episodes coz our VCR's being fixed at the moment (thanks to an incident which is almost PG-worthy itself in its farcicality...) And I can't go and see Star Wars because, until Wednesday rolls around anyway, I am too poor. Normally I'd be able to get in for free (I work at a cinema, which has its perks) but of course it's a 'no free list'er and these evil corporate cinemas are notorious for their inflexibility. Apparently their computer systems simply won't let them issue comps for movies that are classified thus. So I will just have to gnash my teeth and bide my time... Adrian wrote: >I'm even more excited about Empire Me too; it's the only one I haven't seen. Given Mr. Morris's highly inventive mind, don't you think it's odd that he couldn't think of a title for Dead Line that hadn't already been used as an episode title? xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >Given Mr. Morris's highly inventive mind God, don't I feel a right fool?? Of course it's "Moffat" not Morris!!! (I did know that, just had a temporary lapse) I'm terrible with names and things like that, which is particularly unfortunate because my name is quite unusual, and everyone always remembers it... I suspect I'm rapidly earning myself a reputation on this list as the rather annoying one who invariably doesn't know what they're talking about. So maybe it would be for the best if I just shut up. Okay? Okay. xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Barnaby Evans writes: > I suspect I'm rapidly earning myself a reputation on this list as the > rather annoying one who invariably doesn't know what they're talking about. > So maybe it would be for the best if I just shut up. Okay? Don't be daft. Keep the contributions coming ! ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970322124444.00386@yoyo.org> Barnaby Evans wrote (on Mar 22): > >Given Mr. Morris's highly inventive mind > > God, don't I feel a right fool?? Of course it's "Moffat" not Morris!!! (I > did know that, just had a temporary lapse) I'm terrible with names and > things like that, which is particularly unfortunate because my name is > quite unusual, and everyone always remembers it... I did think for a moment that something from the Brass Eye list had been mis-filtered :-) > I suspect I'm rapidly earning myself a reputation on this list as the > rather annoying one who invariably doesn't know what they're talking about. > So maybe it would be for the best if I just shut up. Okay? No way. If people feel like that then nothing would ever get said on this list. There aren't that many of us on it so far (send "who pressgang" to majordomo@yoyo.org if you're curious...). If people think you're talking rubbish then I'm sure they'll either tell you, or ignore you. Don't worry 'bout it :-) Matt (home to London today - wahey!). -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Hi all. I'm just throwing out a fairly uninteresting message to say that I've just subscribed to the Press Gang mailing list. How are you all, anyhow? Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Hi dudes. Just a quick note to say hello, I've joined the list. I'm watching Press Gang again on Nickelodeon at the moment (and getting them recorded!), so I was a bit annoyed when they totally failed to show the last half of series 3. Does anyone know why? Nice list. Stay happy. Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970322222806.12450@yoyo.org> Piers Beckley wrote (on Mar 22): > Hi dudes. > > Just a quick note to say hello, I've joined the list. I'm watching Press > Gang again on Nickelodeon at the moment (and getting them recorded!), so I > was a bit annoyed when they totally failed to show the last half of series > 3. > > Does anyone know why? You're kidding. According to my records, yesterday (Friday) should have been "She's Got It Taped" from Series Four, and Monday should be "Love and War". Can you tell us just which episodes were/are shown on these days so we can figure out what's happened for us? > Nice list. Stay happy. Small but perfectly formed... that's us :-) Thanks in Advance, Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970322223143.54778@yoyo.org> Grant Watson wrote (on Mar 22): > Hi all. > > I'm just throwing out a fairly uninteresting message to say that I've just > subscribed to the Press Gang mailing list. Well that's nice to know. > How are you all, anyhow? Well, since you asked... Me, I'm pretty damned good. Just got hold of a 33.6K modem for the first time. Wheeeee! Oh yeah - you don't need to prefix your subject line with [pressgang] - the mail server puts that in automagically :-) Later, Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970322224633.54896@yoyo.org> Laura Nunn wrote (on Mar 16): > > > Steven Moffat's new sitcom CHALK has now been on for 4 weeks. I'm > > enjoying it and I find it a lot funnier than JOKING APART which I was > > never a fan of. Steven put in a nice reference just for us PG fans (and of > > course his own amusement) in the fourth episode. When talking about another > > school one of the characters refered to a school called NORBRIDGE HIGH. Ring > > any bells ? > > Not to mention Donald Cooper, someone or other whose surname was > Talwinning, and the up-coming David Jefford in the episode which was > supposed to be on this Thursday. I heard "Wellside School" (cf. Wellside Leisure Centre from "The Big Hello" before I was rudely interrupted by the phone. After that I couldn't bear to watch any more. There's farce and there's crap, and Chalk was definitely the latter this week. I hope this was just a minor aberration on my part as I really hate not liking some of Steven's work. As someone said on the newsgroup, I think he should stick to Comedy Drama; he's too good for sitcom... > Anyone know why the scheduled episode (supposedly about a football > match) wasn't shown? Well, it's due up this Thursday, so it seems they've just swapped the order a little bit. Maybe they felt that it would make a better end to the series. This happens sometimes with Red Dwarf and no doubt other programmes too... Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > > I'm watching Press > > Gang again on Nickelodeon at the moment (and getting them recorded!), so I > > was a bit annoyed when they totally failed to show the last half of series > > 3. > > > > Does anyone know why? > > You're kidding. Nope. According to my records, yesterday (Friday) should > have been "She's Got It Taped" from Series Four, and Monday should be > "Love and War". Can you tell us just which episodes were/are shown on > these days so we can figure out what's happened for us? Friday's episode was "In The Picture". They were being shown in order up until "Chance is a Fine Thing" at which point they suddenly skipped 3 episodes and jumped straight to "Bad News", missing out "The Last Word" parts 1&2 and "Holding On". It's a bit annoying 'cos I was hoping to get them all on tape in order. :( Never mind. Last wednesday they held over "Love and War" till the next day in favour of a viewers choice repeat - The choice was of the first four episodes and the winner (by a whisker) was "One Easy Lesson" I have a theory about why they skipped the episodes - wasn't it the anniversary of Dunblane a few days ago? Unfortunately I didn't know it was being repeated till half way through series two, so I'm missing a load of early eps.Grrr. By the way - your PG website isn't working properly in the series guide area - the series lists are opening up a new browser window rather than sending them to the lower left frame. Hope this helps Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Got absolutely slated in the press, but I don't think it's as bad as it's been made out. Last weeks episode (with the school inspectors) was a big improvement on some of the early ones, which were very variable. It's been said that you can't judge a sitcom by the first few episodes as you need to know the characters before they become funny. Chalk seems to me to be improving as it goes on. Having said that, I think I preferred Joking Apart - but I'm sticking with Chalk for the moment. Before the letters damning the series started coming in I read in the Radio Times that "so confident were the BBC of the shows success, a second series has already been commisioned before the first one has even been shown." And it's well known that the first series of "Dad's Army" and "Only Fools and Horses" were critical and ratings failures, so perhaps Chalk could follow the same route? Something to think about anyway. :) Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Living as I do in sunny old Australia, I have completely failed to manage to see "Joking Apart", which - as a Moffat fan - annoys me. Does anyone know if it's available on video in the UK or if there is any way I could get a hold of episodes at all? Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >I have a theory about why they skipped the episodes - wasn't it the >anniversary of Dunblane a few days ago? Yes. I'm not sure of the exact date, but I was in Britain last year from 29 February through 17 March, and it happened during the last week I was there. -Chris * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970323202327.27808@yoyo.org> Piers Beckley wrote (on Mar 23): > > Friday's episode was "In The Picture". They were being shown in order up > until "Chance is a Fine Thing" at which point they suddenly skipped 3 > episodes and jumped straight to "Bad News", missing out "The Last Word" > parts 1&2 and "Holding On". It's a bit annoying 'cos I was hoping to get > them all on tape in order. :( Never mind. > > Last wednesday they held over "Love and War" till the next day in favour of > a viewers choice repeat - The choice was of the first four episodes and the > winner (by a whisker) was "One Easy Lesson" Gah. What a pain in the arse. Thanks for this useful info. Here's a revised Nick transmission schedule for series 3, 4 and 5 for those of us sad enough to want it :-) The Big Hello (11/03/97) 1800-1830 Killer On The Line (12/03/97) 1800-1830 Chance Is A Fine Thing (13/03/97) 1800-1830 The Last Word The Last Word - Part Two Holding On Bad News (14/03/97) 1800-1830 UnXpected (17/03/97) 1800-1830 She's Got It Taped (18/03/97) 1800-1830 Love And War (20/03/97) 1800-1830 In The Picture (21/03/97) 1800-1830 Day Dreams (24/03/97) 1800-1830 Head And Heart (25/03/97) 1800-1830 Friendly Fire (26/03/97) 1800-1830 A Quarter To Midnight (27/03/97) 1800-1830 Food, Love And Insecurity (28/03/97) 1800-1830 Windfall (31/03/97) 1800-1830 There Are Crocodiles (01/04/97) 1800-1830 > I have a theory about why they skipped the episodes - wasn't it the > anniversary of Dunblane a few days ago? Yeah - it was a little while ago. Personally I think that may have not been it though. I consider Nickelodeon to be more "childish" than CITV; maybe they just decided that the gun stuff was a little too much for their 6 p.m. slot... Though that doesn't explain missing out "Holding On"... Hmm. > Unfortunately I didn't know it was being repeated till half way through > series two, so I'm missing a load of early eps.Grrr. Ain't that often the way :-( > > By the way - your PG website isn't working properly in the series guide > area - the series lists are opening up a new browser window rather than > sending them to the lower left frame. > Mmm - thanks. There are quite a few broken things on the Web site at the moment. I have a shiny new version waiting here on my hard disk, which I'm going to upload tonight. It's nowhere near finished; I doubt it'll ever be, but it's better than what's there (yeurgh - blue headings!) > Hope this helps It did. Thanks a lot for the info. Please let us know if Nick messes PG around again :-) Cheers, Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >Though that doesn't explain missing out "Holding On"... Hmm. Would the repeated use of the hilarious "divorce the bitch" line maybe have anything to do with that? I know "bitch" couldn't be used on a children's show here in the puritanical States, and Nikelodeon is a US company. Just a thought, Chris * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > >Though that doesn't explain missing out "Holding On"... Hmm. > > Would the repeated use of the hilarious "divorce the bitch" line maybe > have anything to do with that? I know "bitch" couldn't be used on a > children's show here in the puritanical States, and Nikelodeon is a US > company. > More likely "Holding On" references the gun siege that didn't happen. Could be confusing :) Piers (though having said that, there was a throwaway line about the siege in "Love and War") Is there a great deal of continuity between "The Last Word" and "Holding On"? phb * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >Is there a great deal of continuity between "The Last Word" and "Holding >On"? I think Colin throws up to Lynda when she's angry with him that "I took a bullet for you" or something similar. Not a lot, though, if I remember correctly. -Chris * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Hey Nik, I heard The Spice Girls are gonna be on Saturday Night Live next weekend. Guess I should set my VCR, huh? * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" I wrote: >> I suspect I'm rapidly earning myself a reputation on this list as the >> rather annoying one who invariably doesn't know what they're talking about. >> So maybe it would be for the best if I just shut up. Okay? Matt Saunders replied: >No way. If people feel like that then nothing would ever get said on >this list. and then GMCpilot@aol.com wrote: >Hey Nik, I heard The Spice Girls are gonna be on Saturday Night Live next >weekend. > >Guess I should set my VCR, huh? I feel better now. xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 GMCpilot@aol.com wrote: > Hey Nik, I heard The Spice Girls are gonna be on Saturday Night Live next > weekend. > > Guess I should set my VCR, huh? The Monkees, who were on this week had more musical talent in the little pinkies than that bunch of trollopes ?:-) BTW, duz the PG .sig automatically come up for ev'ryone? Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Hello to all mailing listers. I feel I owe it to you all to confess from the very beginning that I'm a Kenny Phillips obsessive. Sad, I know, but so far incurable. So....while I'm on my fave subject, what was the story with his music career? It appeared from nowhere and slipped back into obscurity. Was it something Lee Ross wanted to bring in? I hate to admit this, but I actually didn't think ROCK SOLID was a particularly good episode (aurghh - that hurt). Still, it was better than all those episodes after he left...Hey, going back to the Star Wars theme, remember that early episode (the name escapes me right now) when Lynda stole the "scoop" from Chrissie about the Star Wars figures that were in toy stores across the country? My favourite bit of that episode was Frazz saying that Lynda had asked him to do an astrology column, but he'd told her rather do the horoscopes. Frazz, now there's another special character. What's Mmmoloki Christie up to these days? Okay. Hope everyone out there is having a good life. This mailing list seems very male dominated. Bye for now, love Sian xxx --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" At 05:08 AM 24/03/97 -0800, you wrote: >Okay. Hope everyone out there is having a good life. This mailing list seems >very male dominated. I'm not dominating anyone... :-) Anyway, there's nothing wrong with being a Kenny Phillips obsessive. I'm a Lynda Day obsessive, myself... Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" At 06:28 PM 24/03/97 +1000, you wrote: >The Monkees, who were on this week had more musical talent in the little >pinkies than that bunch of trollopes ?:-) Ah, but on the hand, the Spice Girls are far more popular with the deaf. :-) Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970324162958.07824@yoyo.org> Widya Santoso wrote (on Mar 24): > On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 GMCpilot@aol.com wrote: > > > Hey Nik, I heard The Spice Girls are gonna be on Saturday Night Live next > > weekend. > > > > Guess I should set my VCR, huh? I wouldn't bother. What the hell does this have to do with Press Gang? > The Monkees, who were on this week had more musical talent in the little > pinkies than that bunch of trollopes ?:-) > > BTW, duz the PG .sig automatically come up for ev'ryone? Yes. This is supposed to be a list about Press Gang. Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Instead of Press Gang today, we were treated to an episode of "The Secret World of Alex Mack" Arg! Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" turned on nick at 18:00, alex mack not press gang, this sux! ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Our Firkin Finn Is Mighty McCool~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Simon Gascoigne, Birmingham, UK-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ###################simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com##################### * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >Instead of Press Gang today, we were treated to an episode of "The Secret >World of Alex Mack" > >Arg! > >Piers Just e-maile nicktext, hopefully I'll get a response, not in the schedule 4 the next week! Complain nicktext@aol.com , be pilite though theyre nice people! Also I dont think alex mack is that bad :-) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Our Firkin Finn Is Mighty McCool~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Simon Gascoigne, Birmingham, UK-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ###################simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com##################### * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" >Instead of Press Gang today, we were treated to an episode of "The Secret >World of Alex Mack" > >Arg! > >Piers Just e-maile nicktext, hopefully I'll get a response, not in the schedule 4 the next week! Complain nicktext@aol.com , be pilite though theyre nice people! Also I dont think alex mack is that bad :-) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Our Firkin Finn Is Mighty McCool~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Simon Gascoigne, Birmingham, UK-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ###################simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com##################### * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" > Just e-maile nicktext, hopefully I'll get a response, not in the schedule 4 the next week! Complain nicktext@aol.com , be pilite though theyre nice people! Also I dont think alex mack is that bad :-) Already have :) Well, email4nick@aol.com, anyway. As for Alex Mack, I was so upset that Press Gang had been bumped I went upstairs and did some work instead, so I haven't seen it. :) Piers * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" well. if you want to set the video for the spice girls be it on your own head - you may never recover from the experience!!!! So Matt, tell us, is this a male dominated list? I imagine it is. You don't seem to get many girls out here in cyberspace...Sian - i am female. Although it's debateable..... Nik aka Luke Skywalker "Wars not make one great." * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970324223709.14038@yoyo.org> Nebine@aol.com wrote (on Mar 23): > >Is there a great deal of continuity between "The Last Word" and "Holding > >On"? > > I think Colin throws up to Lynda when she's angry with him that "I took a > bullet for you" or something similar. Not a lot, though, if I remember > correctly. Yeah - I remember that line. May have been in "Bad News" - the first episode of the next series though... Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970324211310.42130@yoyo.org> simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com wrote (on Mar 24): > > > >Instead of Press Gang today, we were treated to an episode of "The Secret > >World of Alex Mack" > > > >Arg! > > > >Piers > Just e-maile nicktext, hopefully I'll get a response, not in the schedule 4 the next week! Complain nicktext@aol.com , be pilite though theyre nice people! Also I dont think alex mack is that bad :-) Gah. Again. Please let us know if "Day Dreams" turns up tomorrow if you can... :-( Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970324212416.44653@yoyo.org> Grant Watson wrote (on Mar 24): > Living as I do in sunny old Australia, I have completely failed to manage to > see "Joking Apart", which - as a Moffat fan - annoys me. > Does anyone know if it's available on video in the UK or if there is any > way I could get a hold of episodes at all? As far as I know it hasn't been released on video in the UK. I have known to be wrong on this sort of details though :-) I only saw a few episodes of it; I spose it's good preparation for "Chalk" but it never really grabbed me... Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970324223554.51609@yoyo.org> sian aston wrote (on Mar 24): > Hello to all mailing listers. I feel I owe it to you all to confess from the > very beginning that I'm a Kenny Phillips obsessive. Sad, I know, but so far > incurable. A friend in one of my classes has a crush on Kenny. Strange girl :-) > So....while I'm on my fave subject, what was the story with his > music career? It appeared from nowhere and slipped back into obscurity. Was it > something Lee Ross wanted to bring in? Yeah - well Kenny kept it secret didn't he, so I'm not surprised we didn't see it at all before. As for afterwards, well, there was the odd "Kenny Phillips - Rock Star" poster in the next series but it that aspect of Kenny was never really developed properly. > I hate to admit this, but I actually > didn't think ROCK SOLID was a particularly good episode (aurghh - that hurt). "The Big Finish" was fantastic though IMO. The tension is unbelievable and the musical stuff really entertaining, even if it was a cynical attack on Max Clifford types. > Still, it was better than all those episodes after he left... Well, the general feeling here is that Julie was a crap assistant ed compared with Kenny, but I think the episodes in series 4 and 5 were generally better. > Hey, going back to > the Star Wars theme, remember that early episode (the name escapes me right > now) when Lynda stole the "scoop" from Chrissie about the Star Wars figures > that were in toy stores across the country? Very first episode, "Page One". Sadly rather obvious but nevertheless damned funny. > My favourite bit of that episode > was Frazz saying that Lynda had asked him to do an astrology column, but he'd > told her rather do the horoscopes. Frazz, now there's another special > character. What's Mmmoloki Christie up to these days? I last saw him in The Bill yonks ago. I never really rated him as an actor; playing gormless Frazz he was generally cool, but I cringe at his bits in "Crocodiles"... > Okay. Hope everyone out there is having a good life. This mailing list seems > very male dominated. Yeah - sorry about that. At least we're not a Star Trek list or something where any female appearing gets figuratively pounced upon :-) Later, Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List" Message-ID: <19970325003352.31283@yoyo.org> Nik Richardson wrote (on Mar 24): > well. if you want to set the video for the spice girls be it on your own > head - you may never recover from the experience!!!! > > So Matt, tell us, is this a male dominated list? I imagine it is. You > don't seem to get many girls out here in cyberspace...Sian - i am female. > Although it's debateable..... Yes, it is. I don't have the exact figures to hand - and I only have access to the email addresses so it's hard to work out who is what :-) And if people called Siobhan go around masquerading as John then it makes it even harder ;-) I'll hunt around for some thingys that can analyse the archive and produce some nice pretty posting statistics; that'll be fun :-) Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ * * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 03:24:44 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Kath) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:24:44 +1100 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] Kenny Phillips. Rock Star. In-Reply-To: <199703241308.FAA23680@f28.hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, sian aston wrote: > Hello to all mailing listers. I feel I owe it to you all to confess from the > very beginning that I'm a Kenny Phillips obsessive. Sad, I know, but so far > incurable. Kenny... well, he is a sweet (if teddybearish) character. Personally I'm quite keen on good ol' Spike, which goes nicely with my SO's obsession with the lovely Lynda. I guess they're pretty standard, though, as drool-objects. I wonder, has anyone ever had a fixation on Colin? That would be more unusual... Kathleen. disclaimer: No offense intended to the Colin Matthews Fanclub "The three rules of the librarians of time and space are: 1. Silence; 2. Books are to be returned no later than the last date shown; and 3. The nature of causality is not to be interfered with." Terry Pratchett. http://alianet.alia.org.au/~kwatson/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 05:31:57 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Barnaby Evans) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:31:57 +1100 Subject: [pressgang] Colin's "Gun Siege" Defence Message-ID: >Nebine@aol.com wrote (on Mar 23): >> >Is there a great deal of continuity between "The Last Word" and "Holding >> >On"? >> >> I think Colin throws up to Lynda when she's angry with him that "I took a >> bullet for you" or something similar. Not a lot, though, if I remember >> correctly. Matt Saunders wrote: >Yeah - I remember that line. May have been in "Bad News" - the first >episode of the next series though... I'm fairly certain Colin calls upon the 'bullet wound' sympathy angle twice: once in Love & War when Spike refuses to have the briefcase handcuffed to his wrist; and once in Holding On when Lynda finds out the hypnotist 'scandal' was a PR setup. Incidentally, the "don't throw the ashtray" line in Bad News and The Last Word - is this referring to an event that actually 'happened' in one episode? Did I miss something? xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 05:38:34 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Press Gang Mailing List ) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:38:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] PG Message-ID: <970325003833_-1972492237@emout20.mail.aol.com> On Mar. 23, 1997 Barnaby Evans wrote: >I feel better now in regards to my bringing up the whole Spice Girls thing again COOL. glad I could be of some assistance. Now, I'm not trying to piss anybody off and I promise not to ramble too incessantly about "off topic" subjects. But really, give me some credit - I'm not a complete asshole. I do respect the fact that somebody else has taken the time and effort to create this technological masterpiece and I, nor should anyone else, vandalize it with a bunch of garbage. However, as far as I'm concerned the Spice Girls thing was merely an innocuous joke sharred between people who had mostly seen it in respect to the JSAS mailing list and not to be taken too seriously. Sorry if I have angered or offended anyone who thought it was out of place but on the other hand - lighten the hell up and get over it. Best wishes to all Matt McCan - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 09:34:30 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (John Joseph Fitzgerald) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:34:30 +1100 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] Bob Spiers and Spice Girls and connections Message-ID: <199703250934.UAA25171@luga.latrobe.edu.au> hey, Spice Girls is a topic that is actually particuarly relevant to Press Gang at present as Bob Spiers, principal Press Gang director, is directing the Spice Girls movie. The man's coming down in the world! So you see there is a connection. Is this list gonna be another of those "stray vaguely from the topic and die" ones? 'cause they're incredibly boring. Actually Bob Spiers is in Australia at present, working for the ABC... I've promised that I'll try and interview him for Gang Way but whether it'll actually happen I don't know! >I wonder, has anyone ever had a fixation on Colin? That would be more >unusual... Actually, not really. I know more people in love with Paul than with Dexter. But then I know more people in love with Julia than with anyone else, so what's new. I used to be madly in love with Dexter, then I got a life. No, actually, I still don't have a life, but I'm not so madly in love with him any more. Though he is a cutie. vole Siobhan (and if I could get my own email number I could but as it is I have to scrounge this onw from my father...) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 11:02:22 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Barnaby Evans) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:02:22 +1000 Subject: [pressgang] Spiers at the ABC, Paul vs Dexter Message-ID: Siobhan wrote: >Actually Bob Spiers >is in Australia at present, working for the ABC... What's he doing? >if I could get my own email number I could, but as it is ... Quite. >I've promised that I'll >try and interview him for Gang Way but whether it'll actually happen I don't >know! Is one to infer from this that you run an Australian PG 'zine? Can you send me the details? >>I wonder, has anyone ever had a fixation on Colin? That would be more >>unusual... >Actually, not really. I know more people in love with Paul than with Dexter. A (female) friend of mine had a theory that the reason Colin aquired such a terrible haircut in the post-school episodes was to prevent Paul from overshadowing Dexter in the PG spunk stakes... xx Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 10:11:13 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:11:13 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Nickelodeon Repeats Message-ID: <199703251017.KAA08173@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > Yeah - I remember that line. May have been in "Bad News" - the first > episode of the next series though... > Nope, don't think so. That was the one Nickelodeon showed instead of "The Last Word" and a line like that would have jarred (considering I didn't know they'd skipped the siege till I looked it up) Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 10:13:04 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:13:04 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] erm... Message-ID: <199703251017.KAA08175@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > And if people called Siobhan go around masquerading as John then it > makes it even harder ;-) > > I'll hunt around for some thingys that can analyse the archive and > produce some nice pretty posting statistics; that'll be fun :-) > Please don't start posting them on a regular basis though. They'll only jam up the list :) Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 10:15:06 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:15:06 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Kenny Phillips. Rock Star. Message-ID: <199703251017.KAA08177@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > > > Hello to all mailing listers. I feel I owe it to you all to confess from the > > very beginning that I'm a Kenny Phillips obsessive. Sad, I know, but so far > > incurable. > > Kenny... well, he is a sweet (if teddybearish) character. Personally I'm > quite keen on good ol' Spike, which goes nicely with my SO's obsession with > the lovely Lynda. I guess they're pretty standard, though, as drool-objects. > > I wonder, has anyone ever had a fixation on Colin? That would be more > unusual... > Judy Wellman? :) > Kathleen. > > disclaimer: No offense intended to the Colin Matthews Fanclub [the sound of something going straight over Piers' head] The _what_ fanclub? Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 11:31:04 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Barnaby Evans) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:31:04 +1000 Subject: [pressgang] erm... Message-ID: Matt wrote: >> I'll hunt around for some thingys that can analyse the archive and >> produce some nice pretty posting statistics; that'll be fun :-) Piers wrote: >Please don't start posting them on a regular basis though. They'll only jam >up the list :) What, like when people respond to large blocks of mail all at once with a zillion tiny posts?? (no offense meant please note - I refuse to use those obnoxious smiley things unless I have to) Whey-hey, the mail is flying fast and furious this evening! I really should be off home, but I'm too afraid I'll miss something good... Press Gang-related love to you all, Barnaby * * * Barnaby Evans e3095472@student.anu.edu.au - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 10:28:38 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:28:38 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Spiers at the ABC, Paul vs Dexter Message-ID: <199703251123.LAA10370@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > A (female) friend of mine had a theory that the reason Colin aquired such a > terrible haircut in the post-school episodes was to prevent Paul from > overshadowing Dexter in the PG spunk stakes... Not to mention the fact that some Paul-hating fiend got to the opening sequence. His post-school swing-and-grin looks _awful_ I suspect an anti-Paul conspiracy... Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 11:33:29 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:33:29 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] erm... Message-ID: <199703251132.LAA10698@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > What, like when people respond to large blocks of mail all at once with a > zillion tiny posts?? > (no offense meant please note - I refuse to use those obnoxious smiley > things unless I have to) > None taken. And smileys - it's nice to have a shorthand for no-offence-meant :) erm... oh yes, some PG-related stuff. I found out recently that Steven Moffat is a fan of Doctor Who, another programme I love. (He also wrote a short DW story published in Decalog 3) Piers >Press Gang-related love to you all, >Barnaby And Press Gang related love to you too... phb - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 12:59:09 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Andrew Millan) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:29:09 +1030 (GMT+10:30) Subject: [pressgang] Spiers at the ABC, Paul vs Dexter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Barnaby Evans wrote: > >Actually Bob Spiers > >is in Australia at present, working for the ABC... > > What's he doing? I heard in an interview that Martin Molloy (the two nutbags on drive time radio) did with him that he was directing a new show with Lano and Woodley - those madcap comics that seem to pop up on Hey Hey and the like. They mostly talked about AbFab and the upcoming spice girls movie thing he was off to do next. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Millan (JSAS) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 18:37:45 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:37:45 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] Colin's "Gun Siege" Defence References: Message-ID: <19970325183745.19937@yoyo.org> Barnaby Evans wrote (on Mar 25): > >Nebine@aol.com wrote (on Mar 23): > >> >Is there a great deal of continuity between "The Last Word" and "Holding > >> >On"? > >> > >> I think Colin throws up to Lynda when she's angry with him that "I took a > >> bullet for you" or something similar. Not a lot, though, if I remember > >> correctly. > > Matt Saunders wrote: > >Yeah - I remember that line. May have been in "Bad News" - the first > >episode of the next series though... > > I'm fairly certain Colin calls upon the 'bullet wound' sympathy angle > twice: once in Love & War when Spike refuses to have the briefcase > handcuffed to his wrist; and once in Holding On when Lynda finds out the > hypnotist 'scandal' was a PR setup. Yeah, I think I was wrong now. Maybe I'll check later. > Incidentally, the "don't throw the ashtray" line in Bad News and The Last > Word - is this referring to an event that actually 'happened' in one > episode? Did I miss something? Well, if you missed something then I missed it too. Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 18:36:12 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:36:12 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] erm... References: <199703251132.LAA10698@hinge.mistral.co.uk> Message-ID: <19970325183612.52067@yoyo.org> Piers Beckley wrote (on Mar 25): > > > What, like when people respond to large blocks of mail all at once with a > > zillion tiny posts?? > > (no offense meant please note - I refuse to use those obnoxious smiley > > things unless I have to) > > > > None taken. > And smileys - it's nice to have a shorthand for no-offence-meant :) Yeah, email is so "dry" - you can't express facial expressions or subtle humour or that sort of thing which is my excuse for using them. :-) > oh yes, some PG-related stuff. > > I found out recently that Steven Moffat is a fan of Doctor Who, another > programme I love. (He also wrote a short DW story published in Decalog 3) "Continuity Errors", yeah - I have had that book sitting on my shelf for months and still haven't read it. Not even Steven's bit. Sheesh. And he seems to get mentioned in the Acknowledgements of quite a few of the Dr Who: New Adventures books. Apparently he wrote a chapter of the 50th New Adventure too, which I also haven't read... Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 18:31:15 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:31:15 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] Nickelodeon Repeats References: <199703251017.KAA08173@hinge.mistral.co.uk> Message-ID: <19970325183115.39108@yoyo.org> Piers Beckley wrote (on Mar 25): > > > Yeah - I remember that line. May have been in "Bad News" - the first > > episode of the next series though... > > > > Nope, don't think so. That was the one Nickelodeon showed instead of "The > Last Word" and a line like that would have jarred (considering I didn't > know they'd skipped the siege till I looked it up) Hmm yeah. You've got a point there. Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 17:59:06 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:59:06 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] Bob Spiers and Spice Girls and connections References: <199703250934.UAA25171@luga.latrobe.edu.au> Message-ID: <19970325175906.61543@yoyo.org> John Joseph Fitzgerald wrote (on Mar 25): > hey, > Spice Girls is a topic that is actually particuarly relevant to Press Gang > at present as Bob Spiers, principal Press Gang director, is directing the > Spice Girls movie. The man's coming down in the world! So you see there is a > connection. Aha - well that's alright then! :-) So what is this Spice Girls movie? Is it gonna be kind of like those Beatles films from the 60s which had a vague plot but was mainly an excuse for them to sing and look good a lot? :-) > Is this list gonna be another of those "stray vaguely from the > topic and die" ones? 'cause they're incredibly boring. I hope not. I mean I've no wish to see this list turn in to one where there's only a few people on it debating continuity errors. The list is whatever the people on it make of it. Personally, I'd rather people didn't use it as an extension of the Julia list though - a lot of people are on both, but not everyone (like me). So if the Spice Girls *are* on-topic then we need to be told that it is :-) To me, and to a lot of others it would seem, "GMCpilot"'s mail had nothing to do with PG whatsoever; that's why I asked what relevance it had. > Actually Bob Spiers > is in Australia at present, working for the ABC... I've promised that I'll > try and interview him for Gang Way but whether it'll actually happen I don't > know! Ah yeah - I keep forgetting to send you some money... duh. Soon, I promise :-) There's a Gang Way page on the web site: http://www.yoyo.org/pressgang/gangway/ > >I wonder, has anyone ever had a fixation on Colin? That would be more > >unusual... > > Actually, not really. I know more people in love with Paul than with Dexter. > But then I know more people in love with Julia than with anyone else, so > what's new. I used to be madly in love with Dexter, then I got a life. No, > actually, I still don't have a life, but I'm not so madly in love with him > any more. Though he is a cutie. Well, I'm not in love with anybody except that Irish girl from "Love and the JG" and "Chance Is A Fine Thing". ;-) > vole > Siobhan (and if I could get my own email number I could but as it is I have > to scrounge this onw from my father...) Heheh - just remember to sign things so us lot who don't catch on quick don't get confused :-) Later, Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 19:14:04 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Lesley Simpson) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:14:04 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] Arg! Messed about by Nickelodeon again! In-Reply-To: <199703241857.SAA28078@hinge.mistral.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <199703241857.SAA28078@hinge.mistral.co.uk>, Piers Beckley writes > >> Just e-maile nicktext, hopefully I'll get a response, not in the schedule >4 the next week! Complain nicktext@aol.com , be pilite though theyre nice >people! Also I dont think alex mack is that bad :-) > >Already have :) Well, email4nick@aol.com, anyway. As for Alex Mack, I was >so upset that Press Gang had been bumped I went upstairs and did some work >instead, so I haven't seen it. :) > >Piers Nickelodeon always totally rearrange their schedules for the school holidays (usually without telling any of the listings publishers). Drives me nuts. 8-( They should return to their original schedule after Easter. I'd guess that PG will be back on 7th April. Meanwhile PG is one of their options on Choose Your Own Wednesday for 26th March, probably at 13:00 - 13:30. I _was_ trying to check this on NickText but they closed down while I was on the previous page. 8-( They always do this to me - how do they know? Anyway, brief introduction: Hi, I'm Lesley. I work for Auntie, but I have nothing to do with TV programmes and they keep us well away from anyone famous. 8-(. But I did once stand in the same lift as Jenna from Blake's 7 and she did ask me the way out of the building. Such is the exciting life that I lead 8-) Lesley -- | _ _ | _ |_(/_/_)|(/_\/ / - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 20:16:35 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Vince Deehan) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:16:35 GMT Subject: [pressgang] Kenny's Haircut in Series 2 Message-ID: <10051@deehan.demon.co.uk> (Barnaby Evans) writes: > A (female) friend of mine had a theory that the reason Colin aquired such a > terrible haircut in the post-school episodes was to prevent Paul from > overshadowing Dexter in the PG spunk stakes... I can't see anything wrong with Coiln's haircut myself but Barnaby's post reminded me of Kenny's haircut in series 2. I was watching "Love and the Junior Gazette" on the weekend and I cringed again at how short Kenny's hair is at the back. It is shaved up so high that it looks as though Lee had a bit of an accident at the barbers. He surely couldn't have meant for his hair to have been cut like that. Any other opinion's on this very important point ?! (Please, if just to humour me !). ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 19:57:32 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:57:32 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Arg! Messed about by Nickelodeon again! Message-ID: <199703252001.UAA31969@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > Nickelodeon always totally rearrange their schedules for the school > holidays (usually without telling any of the listings publishers). > Drives me nuts. 8-( They should return to their original schedule after > Easter. I'd guess that PG will be back on 7th April. > Yep, that must be what they've done. It was "The Secret World of Alex Mack" again today :( And they certainly didn't tell any of the listings publishers. Even their own UK web site reckoned PG was still on. > Meanwhile PG is one of their options on Choose Your Own Wednesday for > 26th March, probably at 13:00 - 13:30. I _was_ trying to check this on > NickText but they closed down while I was on the previous page. 8-( They > always do this to me - how do they know? Mmm. No good for me trying to tape then, if I've no idea what episode is on. > Anyway, brief introduction: Hi, I'm Lesley. I work for Auntie, but I > have nothing to do with TV programmes and they keep us well away from > anyone famous. 8-(. But I did once stand in the same lift as Jenna from > Blake's 7 and she did ask me the way out of the building. Such is the > exciting life that I lead 8-) Hi Lesley. I'm Piers. I currently sell web design for money, but I'd rather work in film or TV. CV so far - 1 radio sketch, 30 secs on takeover tv. Not terribly impressive ;) Piers PS - Intros all round? What does everyone else do? Who are you all? - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Tue Mar 25 20:08:27 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Vince Deehan) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:08:27 GMT Subject: [pressgang] Introductions all round Message-ID: <10055@deehan.demon.co.uk> "Piers Beckley" writes: > Intros all round? What does everyone else do? Who are you all? After reading Lesley's post I was going to suggest the same thing, Piers. "My name is Vince Deehan and I am a Press Gang fan." ! It's not often I get to say that. Thank God for the internet. I am a 26 year old radiographer living and working in London. I work at a hospital called Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow but all my Usenet posts claim to be posted from "Norbridge Hospital", which of course doesn't exist (not least because Norbridge's hospital is called Steven Park Hospital - see "The Rest Of My Life"). Favourite episodes : At Last A Dragon, Chance is a Fine Thing, UnXpected, She's Got It Taped, There Are Crocodiles, Going Back to Jasper Street. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 04:03:40 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:40 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] erm... Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970326120651.302f0dae@iinet.net.au> At 06:36 PM 25/03/97 +0000, you wrote: >"Continuity Errors", yeah - I have had that book sitting on my shelf >for months and still haven't read it. Not even Steven's bit. Sheesh. Read it! It's the best Doctor Who short story ever! Very Moffat. >And he seems to get mentioned in the Acknowledgements of quite a few >of the Dr Who: New Adventures books. Apparently he wrote a chapter of >the 50th New Adventure too, which I also haven't read... I think he's mentioned simply because he's such a close friend of Paul Cornell's. It was only New Adventure authors who contributed to the group chapter. He did come up with a lot of story ideas and stuff for Human Nature though, another one of Paul's novels. Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 04:03:37 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:37 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] Intros... Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970326120648.302f0474@iinet.net.au> At 07:57 PM 25/03/97 -0000, you wrote: >PS - Intros all round? What does everyone else do? Who are you all? Okie dokie. My name is Grant Watson and I'm a 20 year old student doing an Honours degree in Theatre and Drama Studies. In my spare time I write a lot - I've got a small theatre company that may be performing a play I've written later in the year and I've got an interview this afternoon for a writer's grant from the Western Australian Film Finance Corporation (ScreenWest). I'm co-ordinator of Australia's biggest Star Trek fan club, co-editor of an award-winning fanzine, co-convenor of Swancon 23 (a science fiction convention) and sole co-ordinator of Strange New Worlds (a different science fiction convention). Oh, I'm also a core member and workshop leader in a student-based theatre company. And I like every episode of Press Gang, particularly "Bad News" and "The Last Word". Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 04:03:43 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:03:43 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] Colin's "Gun Siege" Defence Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970326120653.302f0cbc@iinet.net.au> At 06:37 PM 25/03/97 +0000, you wrote: >> Incidentally, the "don't throw the ashtray" line in Bad News and The Last >> Word - is this referring to an event that actually 'happened' in one >> episode? Did I miss something? > >Well, if you missed something then I missed it too. As far as I can remember, we never saw Lynda throw the ashtray in the first place, but we have seen Colin stop her from throwing it and also Lynda stopping Colin from throwing it. It also gets a mention in The Last Word while Colin's bleeding on the ground. Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 08:38:31 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Widya Santoso) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:38:31 +1000 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] "Hello, I'm a PressGang fan" Message-ID: Hello, I'm 33, male, and a PressGang fan. I am fortunate enuff to have all of the seasons on tape, so I need never worry whether the ABC will re-run the series. I am also one of the few people to have their letter about PressGang read out on the ABC-TV's feedback program, "BackChat", probably because they thought I was Kenny. (The letter was a complaint about their not showing Season 5 when it had just been shown in the UK. I was so incensed about their reply, that they wouldn't show Five for at least a year (it was a year and a half, I recall), that I had a copy of Five taped and sent to me. Therefore I can say with some justification that I was the first person in Australia to see episodes of Five.) As a fan I have also compiled the "PressGang P's & Q's (Punchlines & Quotes)", covering almost every episode of all five seasons. (I have yet to get my ass into gear and finish off the last half of Five and some of One.) I haven't published it, because I'm not sure of copyright allowances, but anyone wanting a copy just e-mail me. (There are six files.) Otherwise, in my other lives I am an anime (Japanese animation), manga (Japanese comics) and general comics fan. I work as a bureaucrat for Australian Customs, but one of these days I'll be good enuff to work as a comics artist. I also watch entirely too much TV, read too much news.groups, and indulge in IRC too much as well. I own an Amiga 4000/30, 16meg. So that's me. Oh, who am I? I'm... (If you don't see my name, my .sig's snipped, otherwise I'm Widya Santoso) Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 11:08:46 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Andrew Millan) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:38:46 +1030 (GMT+10:30) Subject: No subject Message-ID: and now for something completely different, Hi, My name is Andrew Millan and i was overjoyed when i found this mailing list the other day. Iam currently in my second year of a computer science degree and i hope to work for a big company as a programmer/analyst when i graduate. I am unfortunate enough to have only seen three (yes thats right '3') episodes of Press Gang and am starting to think that its gonna be a long time before i see anymore. I thought the ABC might repeat some in the christmas holidays just past - but they didnt. From what i have seen - i love it - but i obviously cant get into that whole reminiscent scene that some of the luckier members of this list can. I think i might shut up now, but before i go - thanks for setting up this list Matt :) and hallo to everyone on the list +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Millan (JSAS) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 17:17:28 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Laura Nunn) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:17:28 GMT Subject: [pressgang] Introductions Message-ID: <1342@salmo.demon.co.uk> Hi, > PS - Intros all round? What does everyone else do? Who are you all? Well, at the risk of boring everyone else stupid - I'm Laura, and I'm 17, studying A-levels at school. I've been a PG fan for eternity (well, since I was about 9 anyway) and went to both of the conventions. I think it's rather amazing that a show which, to be truthful, not that many people have heard of, can attract such a large mailing list - and that's only fans with access to the Net. Keep it up everyone - we've made the JS mailing list shrivel already! -- Laura - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 17:20:21 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Laura Nunn) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:20:21 GMT Subject: [pressgang] A-levels Message-ID: <1343@salmo.demon.co.uk> OK, I have a point to make. Are we all agreed that by the episode "Both Sides of the Paper", Lynda and co are in the 6th form? So, they would be studying A-levels, almost certainly. I think Lynda says something like, "History? Maths? Physics? I'm equally behind in all of them." Well, firstly, this is a very odd combination of A-levels, but secondly, we *know* Lynda also has an English teacher. I mean, I know the gal's precocious, but *four* of the most demanding A-levels? God, it's been a long week if I'm getting this trivial! -- Laura - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 18:22:13 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matthew J Newton) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:22:13 GMT Subject: [pressgang] erm... Message-ID: <116@mjnewton.demon.co.uk> In your message dated Wednesday 26, March 1997 you wrote : > At 06:36 PM 25/03/97 +0000, you wrote: > > >"Continuity Errors", yeah - I have had that book sitting on my shelf > >for months and still haven't read it. Not even Steven's bit. Sheesh. > > Read it! It's the best Doctor Who short story ever! Very Moffat. Seconded! > > >And he seems to get mentioned in the Acknowledgements of quite a few > >of the Dr Who: New Adventures books. Apparently he wrote a chapter of > >the 50th New Adventure too, which I also haven't read... > > I think he's mentioned simply because he's such a close friend of Paul > Cornell's. It was only New Adventure authors who contributed to the group > chapter. He did come up with a lot of story ideas and stuff for Human Nature > though, another one of Paul's novels. > "Human Nature" also features a character called Mr Moffat who is a Scottish teacher with black curly hair. I wonder who Mr Cornell based him on... Regards, Matthew. -- Matthew J Newton "People say that I'm too reasonable to have Dorchester, Dorset, UK. opinions, but I don't know about that." matthew@mjnewton.demon.co.uk [Kenny Philips, "PRESS GANG"] - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 21:37:34 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Christina Gilbert) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:37:34 -0400 () Subject: [pressgang] Hello Message-ID: Hello, my name is Christina and I am a big fan of the Press Gang. I'm new to this posting on the mailing list thing so please bear with me. I just want to say that I really love how other people have heard of this show and love it too. I don't know anyone who has voluntarily watched it around here. By the way, I'm Canadian. It seems that the Press Gang must be on the air in the UK and Australia more often than here. Presently it is on Saturdays at 6pm. I wish it was on more often, and on a different station to get more circulation. Anyway about the show. I love the relationship between Lynda and Spike the best because of their love hate style. I've only seen a few episodes from each season so I don't really know how much they really care. It seems they care a lot but have big problems why they can't stay together. Could someone please tell me how the 5th season ended, and how they're relationship ended off because I havn't seen any of the 5th season-but want to. I left off seeing the show when Lynda and Spike went to see someone in a fancy Executive office. I can't remember too well but I think it had to do with Spike's father. Could someone please fill me in on what happened. Christina - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 23:16:06 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:16:06 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Hello Message-ID: <199703262321.XAA09892@hinge.mistral.co.uk> Hello, my name is Christina and I am a big fan of the Press Gang. > I'm new to this posting on the mailing list thing so please bear with me. > I just want to say that I really love how other people have heard of this > show and love it too. I don't know anyone who has voluntarily watched it > around here. By the way, I'm Canadian. It seems that the Press Gang must > be on the air in the UK and Australia more often than here. It's not been shown for years, but we're just getting a repeat run at the moment on cable. How often is it shown there? Presently it > is on Saturdays at 6pm. I wish it was on more often, and on a different > station to get more circulation. hear hear! (who knows, perhaps if the ratings go high enough they'll make Dead Line) Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 23:08:30 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:08:30 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Hello Message-ID: <199703262321.XAA09888@hinge.mistral.co.uk> Christina Gilbert wrote Could someone please tell me how the 5th season ended, and how > they're relationship ended off because I havn't seen any of the 5th > season-but want to. Please - anyone that is going to reply to this - would it be possible for you to reply to Christina directly rather than on the mailing list, or use spoiler protection if you do post to the mailing list, because [gasp] _I can't remember how it ends!_ I'm watching them again on Nickelodeon at the moment for the first time since they were on UK TV and don't want to know what happens till I get there! Piers PS - is there anyone else in this situation? Or am I the only one? - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 23:21:12 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:21:12 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Re: Who's there? Message-ID: <199703262321.XAA09894@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > and now for something completely different, > It's..... > Hi, My name is Andrew Millan and i was overjoyed when i found this > mailing list the other day. :) I am unfortunate enough to have only > seen three (yes thats right '3') episodes of Press Gang and am starting > to think that its gonna be a long time before i see anymore. Which ones? And which one was it that made you think "This is good. I'll watch this again"? >From what i have seen - i love it - but i obviously cant get into > that whole reminiscent scene that some of the luckier members of this > list can. Some lucky members of this list have it all on video... swine... Actually, I read on the web site the other day that there were some PG books available, written by Bill Moffat. Does anyone have these? Are they any good? I seem to recall it said "based on episodes so-and-so and such-and-such *with extra material*" - how much? > I think i might shut up now, but before i go - thanks for setting up this > list Matt :) seconded :) Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Wed Mar 26 23:11:18 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:11:18 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] A-levels Message-ID: <199703262321.XAA09890@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > OK, I have a point to make. > > Are we all agreed that by the episode "Both Sides of the Paper", Lynda and co > are in the 6th form? > > So, they would be studying A-levels, almost certainly. I think Lynda says > something like, "History? Maths? Physics? I'm equally behind in all of them." > > Well, firstly, this is a very odd combination of A-levels, but secondly, we > *know* Lynda also has an English teacher. I mean, I know the gal's precocious, > but *four* of the most demanding A-levels? > It is do-able. Not by me, but there were one or two people I knew at school who did four A-levels. Then again, they had great big brains :) I think the question is more... four of the most demanding A-levels *and* editor on a commercial newspaper? Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 09:46:23 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Piers Beckley) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:46:23 -0000 Subject: [pressgang] Intros... Message-ID: <199703270946.JAA06388@hinge.mistral.co.uk> > >PS - Intros all round? What does everyone else do? Who are you all? > > Okie dokie. > My name is Grant Watson and I'm a 20 year old student doing an Honours > degree in Theatre and Drama Studies. In my spare time I write a lot - I've > got a small theatre company that may be performing a play I've written later > in the year and I've got an interview this afternoon for a writer's grant > from the Western Australian Film Finance Corporation (ScreenWest). > I'm co-ordinator of Australia's biggest Star Trek fan club, co-editor of > an award-winning fanzine, co-convenor of Swancon 23 (a science fiction > convention) and sole co-ordinator of Strange New Worlds (a different science > fiction convention). > Oh, I'm also a core member and workshop leader in a student-based theatre > company. And I like every episode of Press Gang, particularly "Bad News" and > "The Last Word". > [eep!] Let us know how the interview goes. Piers - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 15:13:39 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List ( sian aston) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pressgang] Re: Who's there? Message-ID: <199703271513.HAA15920@f22.hotmail.com> Well, I'm one of the swine with (almost) all episodes on tape AND the novels. There are four of them and I tracked them down last year. I think there are still a few in ABC Shops here somewhere. Actually I didn't think they were that good. Okay, but not brilliant. Something was really lacking. They came across as pretty standard teen fiction in my mind (now you can really tell I'm an English teacher). love Sian xxx --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 14:41:38 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List ( sian aston) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:41:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pressgang] Intros... Message-ID: <199703271441.GAA15342@f7.hotmail.com> Well, after reading all about Grant, I feel a wee bit like an underachiever, but here goes. I'm Sian Aston. I have a degree in Politics/Media Studies and currently work as a freelance writer/researcher. I'm also a teacher and spent 1995 teaching in London (straight out of uni - what was I thinking!!). I hate teaching, but I love London so I'm actually heading back mid-late August in time for the new school year...yay! yay! yay! Erm, what else? I'm a philosophical anarchist. I live in Adelaide which is not the most exciting place in the world. I'm 23 and my birthday is December 14 (hint hint). Fave PG episodes off the top of my head are The Big Finish and Love & the Junior Gazette. I actually didn't like PG the first time I saw it - I was mourning the end of Degrassi Junior High believe it or not. So how about everyone else? love SiaN XXX --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 16:29:41 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:29:41 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] Press Gang books Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970328003250.0a277276@iinet.net.au> At 11:21 PM 26/03/97 -0000, you wrote: >Actually, I read on the web site the other day that there were some PG >books available, written by Bill Moffat. Does anyone have these? Are they >any good? I seem to recall it said "based on episodes so-and-so and >such-and-such *with extra material*" - how much? Umm... there are four books AFAIK. I've got the second one, titled Public Exposure. It novelizes "Interface", "Picking Up The Pieces" and both parts of "How To Make A Killing". I don't know about extra material. It swaps scenes around like crazy and steals lines from other episodes, but I didn't see too much in the way of extra stuff. Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 00:02:52 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Vince Deehan) Date: Thu, Mar 27 1997 00:02:52 GMT Subject: [pressgang] I saw Dexter Fletcher tonight Message-ID: <10075@deehan.demon.co.uk> I just got back from the Divine Comedy gig at the Royal Festival Hall in London where I was lucky enough to bump into Dexter Fletcher, not once but twice ! The first time I saw him was just as I arrived and we were both walking around waiting for our friends to arrive. Then ten minutes later I was walking up a staircase and pointing the way to my brother when I turned round to find myself pointing at Dexter as he walked down the stairs past me. I'm sure I saw a startled look in his eye - he must have thought I was pointing at him. He was looking very smart in a dark, casual suit and wasn't wearing the beard he has in JUDE. He looked just like he does as Spike. In case you're wondering, I didn't go up and speak to him. I like to respect people's privacy and also I wouldn't feel comfortable walking up to him and telling him how much of a fan I was. Great to see that Dexter has such great taste in music ! ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Thu Mar 27 19:25:57 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Press Gang Mailing List ) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:25:57 GMT Subject: [pressgang] Introductions.... Message-ID: <270397192345000C.simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com> Hi, I'm Simon, I've only just discovered this list and was amazed and pleased to find that people still care about such a great show. I'm 17 and watched Press gang from day 1 and have watched it ever since on Central (ITV), Channel 4 and now nick. It's amazing how I apreciated it when i was little and still do. Press gang is probably the resaon for why I'm like I am..... scary! When i wsa 10 I would learn the all the dialogue, my parents thought I was nutty. I think II have all the books, in the loft I think but I have just found #3 Checkmate. I had the video on order for ages and it never came that sucked! Also we had a school newsparer with a replica masthead and what else could we call it! I love most of the episodes but to single a few: deadline, breakfast at czar's, at last a dragon, the last word and there are crocidiles. Ahhh well youre probably really bored so seeya.. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~This Is a Low~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Simon Gascoigne, Birmingham, UK-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ###################simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com##################### - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Sat Mar 29 06:25:58 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Ross Burkhart) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:25:58 +0200 Subject: [pressgang] TEEN TV: WHY AMERICA HAS TRIUMPHED WHERE BRITAIN FEARS TO TREAD (Long) Message-ID: Hi, This article by A.S. Berman in the most recent British Television magazine (No.7) contained a discussion of Press Gang that might be of interest to this mailing list. British Television is a magazine published in the United States and written by American fans of British tv. I disagree with its ultimate conclusion about Press Gang, but the argument is interesting to me as an American with no experience in British teen tv programming other than Press Gang. (Also, I have never visited Britain, so I can't comment on the observations in the article on British society.) Below I quote the most relevant parts of the article for this list. Sorry it's so long, but I wanted to be fair to the article and quote as much in context as I thought necessary. Enjoy. Ross JSAS TEEN TV: WHY AMERICA HAS TRIUMPHED WHERE BRITAIN FEARS TO TREAD BRITAIN AND THE TEENLESS SOCIETY "Just what is your perception of childhood in the United Kingdom? [me--presumably, this is being asked of the American audience] Sure, wee babies and nannies and prams, but somewhere thereafter you lose it, don't you? The image of the British youth grows hazy, gets jumbled up with that old claptrap about British boys consigned to prison-like public schools. And what of British girls? Have you any picture of them at all? "Great Britain is a nation of adults, a land of Stiff Upper Lips and pubs, stone-faced Tories and 'Spirit of Dunkirk' fortitude. One fears if the British ever do decide to kick back and let their hair down, it will be a Rapunzellian nightmare. "America, on the other hand, is a society of youthful excess. We drive our cars faster and play our music louder than any other civilized country. Restraint means little to us outside of the S&M enclave. Life in these United States is Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place, until you're dumped in Florida at the end of it, presumably to await the ship that takes you to Britain. "Nowhere are these societal differences better illustrated than in the TeenVid produced on both sides of the Atlantic." THE SINGLE JEWEL IN A PAPER CROWN "Adolescents are a tough bunch to entertain televisually. Well past the time of life when they were fascinated just to see pictures dancing on a screen (let's be honest: ages 1-11), they now demand more thought-stirring telly than their parents, whose propensity for nodding off in front of the set over the years has made the sleep timer standard issue. Most of all, they detest being patronized. It stinks having no say in how you live your own life, is it so much to ask to be treated to characters your own age who do more than run to a trusted adult when problems develop? "British TV took a few shots at tackling the teen market. Shows like Grange Hill, while lauded for thier 'hard-hitting, tell-it-like-it-is realism,' were little more than junior versions of EastEnders. They were adult perceptions of childhood's chaos, seemingly written by people who had never deigned to speak to a teenager. Kids (for our purposes, people under the legal drinking age) were depicted as little adults or, more often, as the stereotypical whippersnappers that make those over the age of forty-five nervous. "Of them all, Press Gang appeared to come closest to fitting the bill of good Teen TV. This show ran from 1989-1992, and starred Julia Sawalha (daughter Saffron from Absolutely Fabulous) as Lynda Day, the editor of the Junior Gazette, an off-shoot of a mainstream newspaper. "Lynda was a cold and driven high schooler with a single-minded dedication to the Gazette, until American ne'er-do-well Spike Thomson (Dexter Fletcher) was forced to join the staff by school administrators, desperate to reform him. While Lynda and Spike were ever trading barbs, there was little question of their mutual attraction--even if they refused to admit it themselves. "Other young Gazetteers figured heavily in Press Gang, each bringing their own emotional baggage to the bullpen. The results were subplots unusually complex for a programme going after the Saved By The Bell set. "The Junior Gazette also tackled some tough stories, and often ran afoul of corrupt community businesses in the process. When things looked their bleakest, Lynda and crew would rediscover the Power of the Press and save the day. "Strong writing and witty, intelligent young characters made Press Gang a legend. "And yet, as compelling as it was, the show carried with it that pervading essence of British 'adultness'. This wasn't a drama that depicted young people involved in the pursuits of young people, but a group of teens running a school/community newspaper--a business. Grange Hill syndrome again, only in reverse. That they were even kids was coincidental. One is left with the unsettling impression that Press Gang might've followed the trials and tribulations of a band of Rhesus Monkeys running a weekly tabloid with only minimal rewriting." [me--a lengthy discussion followed of such American shows as The Secret World of Alex Mack (the author's favorite teen show), Space Cases, My So-Called Life, and Sabrina: The Teenage Witch] [Conclusion] "There's something really touching about Great Britain's inability to address its young people and their world. EastEnders' Michael Cashman may have found an explanantion in a recent interview he granted to the Walford Gazette [me-an EastEnders fanzine]: 'I think it's to do with the fact that we're an island race. We're frightened of anything that will make us feel small. Small in the world...small in our intellect.' "Is this what it comes down to then? The British feel 'small in their intellect' addressing the hopes and fears of their offspring? Life before adulthood, one supposes, is just not complicated enough. "Better to spin yarns of bobbysoxed Woodward and Bernsteins. [me--I think this is a comment about Press Gang, as Woodward and Bernstein were the reporters who exposed the Watergate scandal that forced President Nixon to resign in 1974.] "Yes, force the little devils into growing up, moving to America, and spending the rest of their lives trying to recapture their lost youth. "Only when the Home Office awakens to this mass migration will you see an Albion Alex Mack. Played by Joan Plowright, no doubt." END OF ARTICLE. - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Fri Mar 28 11:40:31 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Widya Santoso) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:40:31 +1000 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] The PressGang P's and Q's Message-ID: I've received several requests to send people copies of my quotes files- I will wait until next weeked (first weekend of April) to send them, as MIME attachments. Anyone who wants them and hasn't e-mailed me has plenty of time to get to me. Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Fri Mar 28 07:18:59 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (John Joseph Fitzgerald) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:18:59 +1100 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] first Message-ID: <199703280718.SAA15197@luga.latrobe.edu.au> Widya Santoso wrote: >least a year (it was a year and a half, I recall), that I had a copy of >Five taped and sent to me. Therefore I can say with some justification >that I was the first person in Australia to see episodes of Five.) Nuh-uh. I know a few people who also had the episodes taped and sent to them, so they saw it only weeks after it was shown in England. They may have beaten you by hours. Siobhan P.S. It seems that this interview with Bob Spiers may actually happen. Bit of a thrill! - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Fri Mar 28 04:14:48 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 12:14:48 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] How the interview went Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970328121750.0a3f8280@iinet.net.au> At 09:46 AM 27/03/97 -0000, you wrote: >[eep!] > >Let us know how the interview goes. Umm... The premise was good, not enough characters, the story construction haphazard, "but its really very good. Lots of promise." I'm not sure. I've got a final application to stick in on Tuesday. Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Sat Mar 29 16:58:24 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:58:24 +0000 Subject: [pressgang] [admin] Downtime Message-ID: <19970329165824.40686@yoyo.org> Hi, Apologies for the downtime of the list and Website this weekend - unfortunately the server that they run off died on Thursday night and there was no-one available to resurrect it until I rebooted it this afternoon (Saturday). Sorry... Matt. -- -------------- M a t t S a u n d e r s -------------- BSc Computing (Final Year) Systems Administrator University of Wolverhampton Yoyo Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ e: matts@yoyo.org t: 0973 479515 w: http://www.yoyo.org/ - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Sun Mar 30 14:57:11 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Widya Santoso) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:57:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] TEEN TV: WHY AMERICA HAS TRIUMPHED WHERE BRITAIN FEARS TO TREAD (Long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, Ross Burkhart wrote: > Hi, > This article by A.S. Berman in the most recent British Television > magazine (No.7) contained a discussion of Press Gang that might be of > interest to this mailing list. [CLIPPED] > > TEEN TV: WHY AMERICA HAS TRIUMPHED WHERE BRITAIN FEARS TO TREAD [The rest of the article has been CLIPPED, mainly because it's...] Garbage. Widya Santoso widya@macquarie.matra.com.au +61 6 288 0405 "You'll never get away with it, evil Nurse Spawn!" - Hello Nurse "Can I at least say what 'it' is? I've got some lovely overheads made up..." - Nurse Doom (Animaniacs, DC #23) -- Unit 3/12 Araluen Street, FISHER ACT 2611, AUSTRALIA - - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Sun Mar 30 14:17:51 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Grant Watson) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 21:17:51 +0800 Subject: [pressgang] Teen TV article... Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970330212044.0927cd9a@iinet.net.au> At 11:57 PM 30/03/97 +1000, you wrote: >[The rest of the article has been CLIPPED, mainly because it's...] > >Garbage. *I* thought this. I thought about American television programmes such as Beverly Hills 90210, Saved By The Bell and Degrassi Junior High... Then I thought about Press Gang, Grange Hill, Streetwise... Cheers! Grant. _________________________nzone@iinet.net.au "Science fiction is about the future and fantasy is about the past - the myth of the way things used to be. Science fiction is, in a sense, trying to construct a myth of the future." (IAIN M. BANKS) - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Mon Mar 31 10:21:07 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matthew Neale) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:21:07 +1000 (EST) Subject: [pressgang] Press Gang books In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970328003250.0a277276@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Grant Watson wrote: > At 11:21 PM 26/03/97 -0000, you wrote: > >Actually, I read on the web site the other day that there were some PG > >books available, written by Bill Moffat. Does anyone have these? Are they > >any good? I seem to recall it said "based on episodes so-and-so and > >such-and-such *with extra material*" - how much? > > Umm... there are four books AFAIK. > I've got the second one, titled Public Exposure. It novelizes > "Interface", "Picking Up The Pieces" and both parts of "How To Make A Killing". > I don't know about extra material. It swaps scenes around like crazy and > steals lines from other episodes, but I didn't see too much in the way of > extra stuff. > > Cheers! > Grant. the four books do include some extra material, but most of it is crap, for example, a page and a half detailing exactly how Danny develops and exposes film for the newspaper (wow!). There are some actual lines in the book which were in the scripts but cut from the filmed version, but not many. My overall impression of the books was that they definatly don't do justice to the show, and are not really worth owning. There is a story of how the Juniour Gazette started, which contradicts the story given in "Friendly Fire". According to the book Lynda was the editor of a ligitimate school newspaper "Norbridge Days" (Or Norbridge Daze) and she ran an article which rubbished an expensive school play, as well as the teacher who directed it. This casued the play to lose any audience that might have turned up, and also lose a heap of money. After this the teachers wanted the paper stopped, so Sullivan stops it and sets up the Junior Gazette instead. It also says that Sullivan and Kerr were old mates, but I don't remember any of this being in the filmed version. the ep's covered in the books are: page one photo finish one easy lesson interface how to make a killing (1 and 2) breakfast at czars picking up the pieces going back to jasper street money love & birdseed love & the Junior Gazette At last a dragon matt neale. - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Mon Mar 31 11:33:56 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Press Gang Mailing List ) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:33:56 BST Subject: [pressgang] Press Gang books Message-ID: <310397103229000C.simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com> Hmmm, maybe I'm odd I didnt think the books were bad,a nice little supplimental. Trouble is you tend to forget which is in the book and on the tv giving you a strange history. I agree with the illegeal newspaper, but I thought kerr nad sullivan were old friends on tv. I'm probably wrong though. Also the books do have those groovy b&w photos. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Mrs Robinson~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Simon Gascoigne, Birmingham, UK-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ###################simon_gascoigne@emarkt.com##################### - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Mon Mar 31 12:48:05 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Vince Deehan) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:48:05 GMT Subject: [pressgang] Press Gang books Message-ID: <10105@deehan.demon.co.uk> Matthew Neale writes: > It also says that Sullivan and Kerr were > old mates, but I don't remember any of this being in the filmed version. I'm almost certain there is mention of this friendship in the first episode. It never gets mentioned again though, as far as I recall. ------------ Regards Vince Deehan Wembley London - * THE PRESS GANG MAILING LIST * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail containing the * word "unsubscribe" to "pressgang-request@yoyo.org". * * By default, replies are directed back to this list, * not to the author of the message you're replying to. From Press Gang Mailing List Mon Mar 31 23:53:56 1997 From: Press Gang Mailing List (Matt Saunders) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:53:56 +0100 Subject: [pressgang] Press Gang books References: <10105@deehan.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <19970331235356.60674@yoyo.org> Vince Deehan wrote (on Mar 31): > Matthew Neale writes: > > It also says that Sullivan and Kerr were > > old mates, but I don't remember any of this being in the filmed version. > > I'm almost certain there is mention of this friendship in the first episode. > It never gets mentioned again though, as far as I recall. I got that impression from the first episode... "So what have you got for me, Bill?" and lines like that. 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